Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #8444
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fiberglass Help!
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 10:54:40 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Thanks, Bill
    That seems to be consensus as the better way to avoid a heavy lay-up and less Ugh mess {:>).  I'll give it a try, certainly better than my "old" method.
 
Ed
 
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
----- Original Message -----
From: William
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:30 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fiberglass Help!

You probably only need 2-3 layers of BID, buy it as sheet,
 
The technique I use to avoid too heavy a layup is:
Buy some 2 mil plastic material, cut out a sheet twice the size of your layup, fold in half, mark the shape of what you want the finished piece to look like with felt tip marker, weigh the plastic, turn the plastic over, lay down number of plies of BID desired, fold the plastic over the bid (make a sandwich of plastic, cloth, plastic) weigh the plastic/cloth combo, subtract the weight of plastic to get the weight of cloth, mix an equal weight of epoxy and pour onto cloth. Lower the plastic back into place, and squeegee / roll the sandwich until you can see the marker through the sandwich. squeegee out the excess epoxy and then cut with a rotary wheel cutter on the lines.  Now you can peel off ONE side of the plastic, carry it to your tape covered foam piece, position it, and peel off the other side.  Apply sheet peel-ply and brush it down using a hair dryer to remove excess epoxy and let cure.
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser # 4045
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 8:51 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Fiberglass Help!

Ok, you fiberglass types.  I need some guidance. I can (and have) slapped resin on glass cloth and obtained a functional (if heavy) item.  However, I am about to start work on my new radiator ducts and I would like to do better.  My ducts will be approx. 4"x4" at the inlet and approx. 9"x10" at the core.  There might be as much as 1 psi pressure on the walls (if I should ever be so lucky to go that fast).
 
There a some semi compound curves at the corners of the duct as it slopes inward from the top and bottom from the core to the inlet. 
 
I need your recommendation about the weight and weave of the cloth.  I have previously used the cloth tape as it was easy to manage, but it required several layers and it is a bit heavy.  Like I said functional but not pretty nor light.
 
I would like your guidance on how best to apply the sheet to the mold. In the past, I basically wrap the foam mold in duct tape and the lay resin on it followed by raps of the cloth tape and more resine.  I am told that using sheet rather than the tape and first laying it out on aluminum foil to wet it and then cut it in sizes say to fit a side of the 4 side foam mold with a bit for overlap with the adjacent sides was one way to go.
 
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
Ed
 
 
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
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