Return-Path: Received: from smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com ([66.163.168.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b2) with SMTP id 3183187 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:36:21 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO Davidscmptr) (dcarter11@sbcglobal.net@216.63.105.110 with login) by smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2004 20:36:16 -0000 Message-ID: <000501c427e0$4658d180$6401a8c0@Davidscmptr> Reply-To: "David Carter" From: "David Carter" To: "flyrotary" Subject: John Deere Coolant & coolant conditioner (sub for Water Wetter) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:36:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Checked the John Deere website and found plenty of declarations that their antifreeze and coolant conditioner both are safe for aluminum. Local Deere dealer faxed me a sheet that, among other things, said, "Buffering control - reduces corrosion of aluminum, solder, cast iron, and steel parts." and "Cavitation protections - induces the formation of a very thin but tough film on cast iron and aluminum surfaces to guard against pitting of the liners and water pump impellers." and "Long life coolant specially developed for heavy-duty diesel engines, plus it can be used in all gas engines with aluminum blocks. . . . Coolant conditionser [the stuff that is equivalent to Water Wetter but lower cost ] is part of the formulation [ of their ethylene glycol antifreeze ] and is not required at initial fill." Deere has a lab that tests coolant and lets operators know if their "additives" are getting low - if so, they add "conditioner" (the additives part of antifreeze) and don't have to replace the expensive ethylene glycol, which is still good. - There are 14 documents on their coolant and testing stuff. - The initial John Deere website url is http://jdparts.deere.com/servlet/com.deere.u90.jdparts.view.publicservlets.HomeUnsigned then register and enter the site. Then use the search item in left column at top and enter part or product numbers: TY16004 for "coolant conditioner" (the additives package for renewing their antifreeze - or for use with water if no anti-freeze is used). Then, on the "search results" page, go down to the blue Parts Information link to bring up the 14 documents. The last document takes you to the Coolant Eye (see next para) While looking on the web site, stumbled onto this device: TY16423, Coolant Eye Valve. It is a transparent plastic thing that goes in-line in a coolant hose, and also has a pet cock for draining samples or for flushing, etc. -Lets you see the coolant at is circulates. Local dealer has one - it is clear hard plastic. Package says "Keep away from turbochargers and exhaust heat." If I had it in an airplane, I'd put "fire sleeve" on it. - Might be useful in early testing phase to check for bubbles, etc. - or for "any flow at all". Maybe consider as an "engineering development" tool. David