Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b1) with ESMTP id 3142972 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 16:41:07 -0500 Received: from ms-mss-03-ce0-1 ([10.10.5.86]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i32Lf4kF001320 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 16:41:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from southeast.rr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ms-mss-03.southeast.rr.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HVK00DNGC8G93@ms-mss-03.southeast.rr.com> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 16:41:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.10.1.23] (Forwarded-For: [143.209.7.42]) by ms-mss-03.southeast.rr.com (mshttpd); Fri, 02 Apr 2004 16:41:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 16:41:04 -0500 From: echristley@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Rusty's O2 / EM2 problems. To: Rotary motors in aircraft Reply-to: echristley@nc.rr.com Message-id: <7d4c107d01dc.7d01dc7d4c10@southeast.rr.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine > MessageRusty, the O2 sensor in itself does not cycle, but only in > response to changes in the oxygen content of the exhaust. The > reason that "cycling" is seen in automotive applications is the EFI > CPU of the auto is "hunting" for the optimum ratio for emissions > approx 14.7 air/fuel ratio. So if it senses too high an oxygen > contents (varies from 0.45 volts or thereabouts to 0.0 volts) it > increases the fuel content which likely overshoots the desired > ratio so then the computer senses this overshoot through the o2 > sensor and so quickly corrects the mixture by decreasing the fuel > content. This seesawing between over and under the desired voltage > (approx 0.45) causes the O2 sensor to send out a "Sawtooth" wave > form of voltage varying from under 0.45 volts to over 0.45 volts > and under certain conditions and probably approach 0.0 to 1.0 volts > in swing. Sounds like a problem that would be solved perfectly by the application of a little fuzzy logic, or are the sensors so sensitive that ANY O2 will turn them full on? The other side of the equation could be that once you're somewhere around the sensor's switching point, it's not worth the work to optimize any further. > In the automobile use Lead will quickly decrease the sensitivity of > the O2 sensor to the point that it is relative useless for the > emission control purpose since it is trying to maintain an optimum > by quickly sensing and responding to an over or under oxygen > voltage signal. In our application we more or less use it as a > trend indicator Rich, Lean, Going Rich, Going Lean. Millisecond > response time is not required for our reaction time {:>). > Ed, that last statement has me confused. I've read several posters who have had to replace O2 sensors due to lead fouling. Is it something else killing the sensors?