Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #6945
From: Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Requesting more thoughts on cooling
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:07:12 -0800
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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John;

 

It doesn’t surprise me a bit that your temps are running up doing what you’re doing. I don’t recall your configuration, and whether you get any significant natural convection cooling.  I’m surprised that your oil temp didn’t go higher.  With our props in back the best we can hope to do is to be able to do low speed taxi and idle without overheating.  It’s all about airflow at liftoff speed and above.

 

If you chose to remove the thermostat you should be able to tap out the hole with ˝ NPT and put in a plug.  Put grease in the flutes of the tap to keep the turnings from getting in the cooling system.  Change out the grease after about three full turns or so.

 

Best of luck,

 

Al

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of John Slade
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:34 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Requesting more thoughts on cooling

 

Guys,

I'm signed off and ready to fly, but I'm a little concerned about cooling issues. I don't want to melt anything in the first go around the pattern.

 

I'm finding that the engine gets REALLY hot after about 10 - 15 minutes ground running, and I'm wondering if that's to be expected, or if I have a cooling problem.  Maybe I should just taxi gently to the runway and launch to get airflow as soon as possible.

 

For example, today I ran it up and down the taxiway for a few minutes at fairly low speeds and around 2500 - 3000rpm. Then I did some static runups (maybe 3800 - 4000 rpm - all the brakes will hold) and some EC2 tuning. Then I did some mode 1 programing at various rpm. During this run I watched the water temp gradually go up until it was over 200 and I shut her down. The oil was still down around 140 - 160. I took the cowl off and found that everything in the engine compartment was HOT. Radiator, oil coolers, hoses, intake, the cowl itself. Apart from giving my cowl a REAL GOOD post cure I dont think I've done any damage, but this doesnt give me a lot of confidence about whether I'll make it around the pattern.

 

The thermostat is now in place, and I get the feeling that I'd be much better without it. Once the engine gets a little hot the water temps seem to "run away" if I'm producing any kind of power. So... to remove the thermostat [3rd gen rew engine] I have to remove the water pump and have the by-pass hole welded shut - right?

 

Do you 13B drivers tend to just taxi out at low rpm then launch? Would your engine overheat if you did a 15 minute medium power runup? I'd appreciate any general thoughts, or comments on how much ground running I should expect to get away with before the temps get too high. Anything else I should check?

 

Regards,

John Slade

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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