Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #6888
From: Russell Duffy <13brv3@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis & RD-1Cdrivetesting
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 08:07:59 -0600
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Message
    Do you have an oil/air separator returning oil to the sump?  If not, I suspect the "oil usage" you are seeing may just be oil lost in the blowby.  In my early days with plugs up (before I built a new sump), I would get foaming oil out the dip stick when I exceeded 5000 rpm so I built an air/oil separator.  Later I discovered that with the new sump keeping the oil level in the block next to zero eliminated the foaming.  However, I can imagine that at 7000 rpm the oil mist and foaming as the cooling oil pours (or is slung) from the rotors probably suspends a lot of oil in the air which could get blow out.
 
FWIW
 
Ed
 
 
This is interesting.  When I was flying the rev-1 version, I started with just a small on the dipstick vent.  This was just one of those old PVC air filters that I picked up at an auto parts place.  You could see that it got misted with oil, and accumulated a few drops in the bottom, but that was about it.  Eventually, I got around to installing a vent line that ran down to the exit of the cowl, which worked fine for a while. 
 
After one particular flight, I noticed that the belly was coated with oil, all the way back to the tailwheel.  I thought it was due to the fact that I ran the engine harder than usual, and did a little more maneuvering on that flight, and I'm sure those things were a factor.  The real culprit seemed to be the placement of the vent tube exit.  I had changed something prior to the oily flight, and had to reposition the vent line.  It's new position seemed to be in a location that must have caused a suction on the tube, which helped the oil escape. 
 
Next, I used a normal size line from the dipstick vent, which is inserted in a larger diameter clear hose.  This is a very loose fit, to allow air to vent between the tubes.  The bottom of the clear tube has a valve, which stays closed in flight.  This allows me to capture, and monitor the oil loss.  I kept this arrangement in the rev-2 configuration, primarily to keep from dumping oil on the hot muffler.   
 
I have suspected that running the oil level on the high side was also part of the cause in loosing oil from the vent.  That's one of the reasons I wish I had extended my oil pickup tube to make up for the engine mount plate.   Hey Fred, there's another product you can sell.  It would be easy to make a spacer to lower the oil pickup, and supply it with longer bolts. 
 
Cheers,
Rusty (company van being picked up by the fleet dept today)
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