From: "Marc Wiese cardmarc@charter.net" Received: from pmg.Logan.com ([207.170.160.161] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.5.2hotfix1) with ESMTPS id 4352420 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 25 Oct 2025 10:27:00 -0400 Received: from pmg.Logan.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg.Logan.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id EB33020C24 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2025 10:26:59 -0400 (EDT) Received-SPF: pass (charter.net: 47.43.20.28 is authorized to use 'cardmarc@charter.net' in 'mfrom' identity (mechanism 'ip4:47.43.20.0/24' matched)) receiver=pmg.Logan.com; identity=mailfrom; envelope-from="cardmarc@charter.net"; helo=impout004.msg.chrl.nc.charter.net; client-ip=47.43.20.28 Received: from impout004.msg.chrl.nc.charter.net (impout004aa.msg.chrl.nc.charter.net [47.43.20.28]) by pmg.Logan.com (Proxmox) with ESMTPS for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2025 10:26:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([68.184.182.131]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id CfEKvA0fyIA5TCfEKvftFM; Sat, 25 Oct 2025 14:26:52 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=charter.net; s=c20240129; t=1761402412; bh=IlC8sVRyCH3Hx7HRbPyCCM5dr/U0HjgaWis33DszBQ0=; h=From:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:To; b=QBlunb07nRjCxNANRBqzLuzdyGFFzSIE5pMyJFOFJcwvtUpUrg0wB4B9J1alpDw8m BTPPLRa9PjRfq7xa/tqG/K9EU9IQFxi3GUHreGa6dE9zt+JCWEXAsDU4t8Sco4T2tB Wb3O0bMjXWto9uHqpLRUmyzBHqmL+SDuMgYvGUXnAPlC2LxLrLbumdhliiuggMCoMX zfcxRCqZOqbCxdQkVY2QPtB+2kRl4CeLq8Wu6N4EMQ6U+6B4jt39g0qhEVgGgQu/aZ 4rJ9Cpo7kSD9VtfNN6nlRjp7LiIrDVhWkJuCyv3P5GdseoaA/C9XciTiwofLcXJ0Tg dxMqpUpCVGvjw== Authentication-Results: charter.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=cardmarc@charter.net X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=VOfbncPX c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=68fcde2c a=qoXC88jkgkm1v/IAzpf30Q==:117 a=qoXC88jkgkm1v/IAzpf30Q==:17 a=GcEBgxniAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=2laa_QhXXCiip3gVXMYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=4PR2P7QzAAAA:8 a=ivEox9-zDdJsWvVL:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=s3fAV4qtrbZJkz3VMWsV:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=4dqwQCo7Po2mVW515mGf:22 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-A08032B4-4743-4920-A2F5-1390B9CF359E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Renesis Oil Cooling Improvement Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2025 09:26:41 -0500 Message-Id: <9AFE9D42-EA4F-4285-ABCF-1D92536552D2@charter.net> References: In-Reply-To: To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (22G100) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfBa08qRRmEOaASW4gTqlueGNQq/r2tExG47cXknBUr24Oo/hgiSQsNDi/MmFLnLbJFtkZ+Sqkj4wIT+LR/wlIaqSCgDyzzzHw1S1xY7PeDi9LlA+VJlc iCEzpM4en/CX8GeoTjxf2WNVRoBwWRwD5gx8k65JQE6Z3w6/+iP4Kr2TmtyJusqylK8Ljye5N9kYpsIbw1JK2HAiXjWTQDC43CI= X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 AWL -0.258 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain DKIM_VALID_EF -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain DMARC_MISSING 0.1 Missing DMARC policy FREEMAIL_FROM 0.001 Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider HTML_FONT_SIZE_HUGE 0.001 HTML font size is huge HTML_MESSAGE 0.001 HTML included in message MIME_QP_LONG_LINE 0.001 Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_BL 1.5 Sender listed in HOSTKARMA-BLACK SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_PASS -0.001 SPF: sender matches SPF record --Apple-Mail-A08032B4-4743-4920-A2F5-1390B9CF359E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It=E2=80=99s interesting that Tracy=E2=80=99s book =E2=80=9CAviators Guide t= o Mazda Rotary Comversion=E2=80=9D on page 85/86, =E2=80=98oil cooling=E2=80= =99, (best references I have found yet on such) Tracy states =E2=80=9CThe be= st choice of oil coolers is probably a stock Mazda oil cooler=E2=80=9D. He t= hen elaborates, saying only =E2=80=98low restriction=E2=80=99 coolers be use= d because the rotary has a higher oil flow rate thru the rotors.=20 I recall Mazda oil coolers incorporate an internal design that other coolers= don=E2=80=99t usually have.=20 I don=E2=80=99t know if there have been any updates to this thinking, but th= ere you go.=20 Of course, you would want to have any cooler professionally cleaned before r= eusing it, methinks.=20 Marc Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 24, 2025, at 6:46=E2=80=AFPM, Marc de Piolenc piolenc@archivale.com= wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > Oil and water are the two media by which the ENGINE is cooled. Improving o= ne (the oil) is going to relieve the other of some of its cooling load, lowe= ring its temperature. >=20 > On 10/24/2025 6:00 PM, Rotary motors in aircraft wrote: >> An unintended consequence of the lower oil temps, is that I noticed tha= t my water temps also dropped by about 10 degrees. In the past when cruisin= g around the temps would settle between 145 and 165 degrees, while today it w= as between 130 and 135 degrees! So is there a thermo dynamic reason why low= ering oil temps would also pull down the water side as well --Apple-Mail-A08032B4-4743-4920-A2F5-1390B9CF359E Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It=E2=80=99s interesting that Tracy=E2=80=99= s book =E2=80=9CAviators Guide to Mazda Rotary Comversion=E2=80=9D on page 8= 5/86, =E2=80=98oil cooling=E2=80=99, (best references I have found yet on su= ch) Tracy states =E2=80=9CThe best choice of oil coolers is probably a stock= Mazda oil cooler=E2=80=9D. He then elaborates, saying only =E2=80=98low res= triction=E2=80=99 coolers be used because the rotary has a higher oil flow r= ate thru the rotors. 
I recall Mazda oil coolers incorporate an int= ernal design that other coolers don=E2=80=99t usually have. 
= I don=E2=80=99t know if there have been any updates to this thinking, but th= ere you go. 
Of course, you would want to have any cooler pro= fessionally cleaned before reusing it, methinks. 
Marc
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On Oct 24, 2025, at 6:46=E2=80=AFPM, Marc de Piole= nc piolenc@archivale.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

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Oil and water are the two media by which the ENGINE is cooled. Improving one (the oil) is going to relieve the other of some of its cooling load, lowering its temperature.

On 10/24/2025 6:00 PM, Rotary motors in aircraft wrote:
  An unintended
 consequence of the lower oil temps, is that I noticed that my water=20
temps also dropped by about 10 degrees.  In the past when cruising=
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around the temps would settle between 145 and 165 degrees, wh=
ile today=20
it was between 130 and 135 degrees!  So is there a thermo dynamic r=
eason
 why lowering oil temps would also pull down the water side as well
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