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[115.166.42.58]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a23sm8637139pfg.82.2020.01.11.15.48.51 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Jan 2020 15:48:52 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: radio tx problem Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 07:48:48 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <4FEDDD0B-98E5-4743-8226-57D2A1A2C5DE@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Hi Finn. Yes Plastic, so RFI often problematic. And yes I agree. Fix the source of the RFI if possible. Antenna is a dipole glassed into the fin so basically impossible to = rectify or change the older coax to better RG400. I=E2=80=99m putting an antenna analyser on it today so hope to get VSWR = etc.=20 If its no good I might have to install a new antenna system. Wondering about: Iinternal - say a Bob Archer SA-006 or 008 at $180USD plus shipping = to Australia=20 External and installing a ground plane? In regard to Tracy=E2=80=99s fix. I haven't done any RFI decoupling, but = I thought 10nF might be a better choice for 120Mhz? Thanks Finn. Steve =20 > On 11 Jan 2020, at 10:30 pm, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net = wrote: >=20 > Steve, >=20 > This is a composite airplane? >=20 > Before starting to eliminate effects, I'd suggest you make sure that = the transmitter, cables and antenna is not the cause. You're sure you = have a real good coax - perfect shield/ground on both transmitter and = antenna end? Good solid connector grounds -- no corrosion? How about = grounding of transmitter (path to battery)? >=20 > You could try a handheld transmitter for testing. >=20 > In Tracy's fix, notice the period. It's 100nF not 1uF. Probably not = that important but could slow the MAP sensor response. >=20 > Finn >=20 > On 1/10/2020 6:31 PM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: >> Hi people >>=20 >> Ive had an opportunity yesterday to begin the journey of chasing down = this miss in the engine / EC2 on radio TX. >> I discovered that the gremlin is getting into the EC2=E2=80=99s A = computer but not the B >> Switching to B there is no hint of a problem. >>=20 >> I=E2=80=99m thinking there are two substantive differences between = EC2 A & B processors/computers. >> 1. The B computer has the capacity to turn off the leading and = trailing coils for testing, that the A computer doesn=E2=80=99t have. >> 2. The A computer measures the intake air temp to determine O2 = molecules in intake charge which the B computer doesn=E2=80=99t. >>=20 >> So I=E2=80=99m wondering if the intake temp input (thermistor) on the = EC2 A computer is the antenna for the RFI to get in. >> Disconnecting this line to the the EC2 A computer in order to = identify if this is the problem is going to be a pain but maybe a = necessary fault finding path. >>=20 >> Has Tracy or anyone put a small Capacitor on inputs to filter RFI? >>=20 >> Thanks for any input you can offer. >>=20 >> Steve >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html