X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=G+5i7Os5 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=aUb0gpmLtesR8ZTSUQD2JA==:117 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=e8BSqymJ620A:10 a=J70Eh1EUuV4A:10 a=-ZWx6XDNE4MA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=MxweylZJ89kQJZZBrrIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=euThAN7OvT5Svx8QOzEA:9 a=eNP6enePuVJsk8dJ:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=GyA-uvUxXSCciAkwuKQO:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "A R Goldman argoldman@aol.com" Received: from sonic317-26.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com ([74.6.129.81] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 12931207 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 06 Sep 2019 13:25:02 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.6.129.81; envelope-from=argoldman@aol.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aol.com; s=a2048; t=1567790684; bh=FEYu9owCZXaQPyD0j0aSjn5GreUOPIkUKcRXORiSo6c=; h=From:Date:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:To:From:Subject; b=tYyICXjS8250BYmEzQBlhdqTlOfMFb6rT9IYJdS+HIMmcAFVrs/VeKo1oSbL+44NB6y2AKezIvxevJ7JeMdrklwBViNUlfrO5HmMaGU3cdkbuPVjLstfSin+DFKSQYezHPfcK242VgNZRM/TZz1CbBtpbzeOnU2M+Igs1Tjmk7npzfE4AfKvCEmnnuunQhrVCdRHh3pXZQFL7LOqYIFtcQJsCOJTRYDn7+0mE34xXXCZz0p5DBSfgtbbFBsXN5WHMNVIJpRqEfXczmIkLuQShjRmdBJocCA74EB/1lZZ7+0AgKeGUOtth5g9GPt/4lRR5hQFMcnq0RmCEThR3tCwFg== X-YMail-OSG: qVR34aAVM1kSoAJuno_qKxoGtlPXfW3ulwylFLG_TQzLtq54bq55opuzH.unzQ6 zMyYYqR_Xz5Th1s5tcdKHcXuiflVOJ21tYfqm8Kbqu6GjEzMMdHWDf04201pkECvXpwdUM1PNhfw wUgMUj5zsAq1o38lJhFD6z8Am2QWsTaY5.FmP1gIGyb70J0y7.6mmhmBH373afMQyKtazhtyx2y2 zRLl3_TDGggd1jLw7J345oJqEXss0s19Ss0ZQ_i4gS_xH16XBfJzQreSj.cqkXAvfFwf1_PiLD8u PjaOBRqX3dxvvZdx06e_e7fJmN3NxJ_332eEdnHhSrqsYoh5E_ruJLHamCptbnNqF8sxeN4RFZuH AE6EWTdv5nCSahykkjSFhB7yZkeTvsEuhsjs55_d.rzSMsT.ZtLoxYdRfTj5NDHAM4eyBRccJMnt YWXhBqtkREkBtyvsvb0Li2UqDo6Gvh8EeNvE_6kPWA4YvS2lxKsQVMYHstuUZxENEExEjL2gWP9s fmyccrbopXX45VPed9njh13xsAxlTZlAmYsrZbJ65Du9TeTkFQAHAe.XUlnUuSTO.sLSb62sTmqo 3GaIuFSWdoSyFJ_6lotAviPwxkeP5R.UWpVhJPR4e4GTiSzm08HvFg0tAEFeQViyv.vD1A1d8cMd 9g5vwhhV6NpfnvvpekUANfqCcz6wRPapXXE.Hq9DzoJcwcvVFVJaY_O9vg.VmSWseHX1zXxXzz2j WQdYI_TG.Py2yRnHXKDXPtRfgi_anEIgmJcBHPBYLCwBJzkafFgDeorEsWviI93P7TSc4iR9MhCk 9Q3Q9wDnaEvVdfnlxjmgdq7NOGBGXpEsyMSlfrnY_Z2MQ69duCQ0nXhGUnta8r5298IqUcl1A_PU mEqj.WhqRPP3dFXFHmQ9gLW6B3tmU8Mk2a9tnMoikBDM84CXfs.E9aceHyjo4g1Ov3_NO.NPoUOL BJMDdw51Upr6HEP_b7CPEQ8rbfFSuuZrgtgygy.nSAcojqnNBoXArrLgOjInVURyqbmwPbNN.eRV IJ2OFy.rNGFRd41x4UScGtsu.SeZHeB9sA0DlYj_6.vFwFcz0yMYf0gjvhSMDZ81gio4DHqRLmTG JyTg.xDkeSXlOQR.PE9nqvA6_y720U2Y3kN6.ByEqvyRmtRGL8yozc_QSuwF8IXN7jm3w6CMghgk gGSMRYBCHCTTirHslotSZFX7ceGkO0DxEcj2DaGsYH9KEEvHzuYkMaH0PE.AE.0Q1YJGcGDjyuCw Iz9hDiepp8_0syThHzXOtU4320C.kx8jtg..9imAMpN9_1gikKHmzT8_EgAfnhbW8FmLoVs41ule ekpOgNC2AcfI- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic317.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 17:24:44 +0000 Received: by smtp411.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID e70c09acfa74298153616095a8e88d9b; Fri, 06 Sep 2019 17:24:43 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-477D1799-FA85-46C3-A002-50F98FAF15FD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 12:24:40 -0500 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Part specs-radiator design Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: To: Rotary motors in aircraft X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16G77) --Apple-Mail-477D1799-FA85-46C3-A002-50F98FAF15FD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not totally true as I learned from overheating my norton rotary dragonfly. I= t makes sense that air flows from high pressure to low. But. Many times oh h= as a mind of its own counterintuitively. For example as the air exit the exc= hanger if it is not allowed to exit straight or gently deflected, independen= t of the delta the air will stagnate and not go where you expect. Pay as muc= h attention to the exit as you do with the entry Yrmv Rich Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 6, 2019, at 11:52 AM, William Jepson wrjjrs@gmail.com wrote: >=20 > Answer is nothing; provided the airflow is there. Also there needs to be a= vent or tap to get all the air out of the inside. > Bill Jepson=20 >=20 >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 8:38 AM Marc Wiese cardmarc@charter.net wrote: >> Finn asks- >> "BTW, what happens when you lay down (at a 20 degree) angle a radiator th= at is designed to be upright?" >>=20 >> I always wondered about that myself. The stock FD (3rd gen) radiator has t= o be at about a 45 degree angle (?) to the incoming airstream. And it has 2 "= supplemental" staged electric fans (no pump fan), one is always on if the AC= is on, the fans have different blades and different speeds controlled by EC= U and temp sensor. I suppose the fins are canted or perhaps they are best ti= lted to airflow to create turbulence and help remove some heat..........don'= t know much about radiator design............ >> MW >>=20 >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Lis= t.html >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Lis= t.html --Apple-Mail-477D1799-FA85-46C3-A002-50F98FAF15FD Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not totally true as I learned from overheat= ing my norton rotary dragonfly. It makes sense that air flows from high pres= sure to low. But. Many times oh has a mind of its own counterintuitively. Fo= r example as the air exit the exchanger if it is not allowed to exit straigh= t or gently deflected, independent of the delta the air will stagnate and no= t go where you expect. Pay as much attention to the exit as you do with the e= ntry

Yrmv

Rich

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<= br>On Sep 6, 2019, at 11:52 AM, William Jepson wrjjrs@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Answer is nothing; provided t= he airflow is there. Also there needs to be a vent or tap to get all the air= out of the inside.
Bill Jepson 

On Fri= , Sep 6, 2019 at 8:38 AM Marc Wiese = cardmarc@charter.net <= flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Finn asks-
"BTW, what happens when you lay down (at a 20 degree) angle a radiator that i= s designed to be upright?"

I always wondered about that myself. The stock FD (3rd gen) radiator has to b= e at about a 45 degree angle (?) to the incoming airstream. And it has 2 "su= pplemental" staged electric fans (no pump fan), one is always on if the AC i= s on, the fans have different blades and different speeds controlled by ECU a= nd temp sensor. I suppose the fins are canted or perhaps they are best tilte= d to airflow to create turbulence and help remove some heat..........don't k= now much about radiator design............
MW

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