X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=G+5i7Os5 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0k1WvHppVYe1Rdmh4gyVdw==:117 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=Fee85h93u3AA:10 a=J70Eh1EUuV4A:10 a=-ZWx6XDNE4MA:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=OKqzEBt-W_HIrReAk_oA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=M-o7-jd19DYVKQ5r4VAA:9 a=WshbxLZE-0HgAZ5l:21 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 a=pHzHmUro8NiASowvMSCR:22 a=nt3jZW36AmriUCFCBwmW:22 From: "lehanover lehanover@aol.com" Received: from sonic301-3.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com ([74.6.129.42] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 12930884 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 06 Sep 2019 12:02:40 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.6.129.42; envelope-from=lehanover@aol.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aol.com; s=a2048; t=1567785743; bh=nwOoK7INWFxTbgRnJVTXyzxOjWkYNgRA6CTvad9rcXc=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=RO0dJ5ZbvGM85ve5RDphavosuHxte9+rc+I6J6A69FxgIHmwV4wo4vcKF4HCPutuwrWqmZ/LsGex9hiFbjAvAXMJJA1uw1N58s6aXfLcWFHqZuI9+vxtBiO4C9o08hhhf/WPeNhQT8+Xf4OPWfNKrSXtFtaqwLebs9t4Ed5DJbb6dVwj0bBW0HYTMDAmtfXGamMWAPAYQohMNHxlqm2V8pRB3uYOLygZ9QF7xD0aVwa8R8oi9BkaVUv0978ez3YLb+HnTWhojeTcpbpQaNcLRGsTeqxvmjI7oABhTwVu6oQNb2R56iitF9Upacqu6AtGxyiv5SJsPL/GeO260MVHdw== X-YMail-OSG: yWwO.MUVM1n9hVfe_KZKBuJTUMEmaNkSZbaInRBgERXfx6kwxU0bCu89Xnjv3Ox tZFG66kJlJfFOtN0Hnw0Co1Q_3DjCk8_5uWdO_Zr63V.zVhJbiDNxmMAd5j6r52CjTXhGi0nwp80 ZyzF1ykbdpv6h46sSSjspJ7cPwkOODL3PDqWfdE3nVkb88Q01ZgbPYY6zpRorVQGH31WyarD7GKl fi4Wl2j5XpeOtKlZkkn_a5FzzamYSM__22uny_WsiIm5nmkcWB03sF4tm0c7tXrIR_tl_WYFTErH mCGwrt8RgeWEZCGkWk44gHrVjUCJg7Eg4R1HMa5Jbd.RnEyXSmQOopCXXnb2DBkYvIUeVg0Mrtgm hDO0Tim0CWuowzdqHokxYf6aNTFmk_yrmsVcB0DjPdqA2IJaeLetwr82LaJb3xLCvhU3NneC.Ajp 7j7x1GWn_73zkrvdmLW9ls355_Uba_9YstQhUalrXAVMgOJgO7WFoIVhjo0_di2RAczdV5gLPTez MSG3bC4ma0gWSUskAZweEWbW1il59eQAkMfXe53OZ2PvxojHIHgfrQ.6qWhneXH45RbTmd82gwPF d9eNqrnZFlabfQfSQOyohLqO5vi2eSYtbF_JPX8dKKkNs.dncHg9OjA93ZZYt0F9vP7.7YtJ6ED8 v1GTH_SOd2vFvhd2e7EBmWM2wj25BrjEHoWlaaBZ5DFTb5sX2kfJcVvbZHwaZ4Ugvem.8ryoSSqr RgoqSrmonDcyB2gFfmyXVtOy6So0LGd1d3R90Bp8t2KSY1QHShz5s8Qb53lg3t5GoZNoro_tnSYJ Vf5MTyM9xvMpPWybyCXyPfdpPr_IFNVoguplZvC1l7DqWTfAQcxMTmjBmzcVc8nT42kya.SY9jT1 krYYehgWfX1oGrHLqcpYAIQoeHiozWO7QdnT1dXsbUf1yJ5W1gFxmxvrEYc35KLmUMyXcFIpHvlQ aP9d5dkgbftWkEwZOg_9UzTz784uuSqy9FkoSzqDZPYUXp0_3DlqhyEs7QGkJ6b.kCjyfndtEtYO A7q8AhrpB5m6K.8HvZslRtdarpPotJ2o5FKGDTEtcBmPPki6xbytP0Tg3PACIyzwvoie_W1xw2zF B3BEr6svwuAv.e8ikBFdVy4SGc3a9UhFhuGwOAaNyhr5JxLbqI6nIA3mMx3FOQ8bCw_fmSohVCu7 VICWQ_GoLei2BXEmczlu2r06hVOaoz_WGGgg.QCzEXLHvQBIcfoBC8NYJORi17o.Ph2Js7xxjGbM SwSw- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic301.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 16:02:23 +0000 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 16:02:19 +0000 (UTC) To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message-ID: <160558264.2206785.1567785739143@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Part specs-radiator design MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2206784_1868245547.1567785739142" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.14303 aolloki Apache-HttpClient/4.5.7 (Java/1.8.0_144) Content-Length: 5231 ------=_Part_2206784_1868245547.1567785739142 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Less than 90 degrees to airflow reduces efficiency, Turning vanes as found = in large air handlers in buildings are required. When building cars I went to the NAPA store nearby and looked in their pict= ure books for any shape you might have in mind. Then they can look up that = picture by part number. I used GM evaps for oil coolers with dash AN-12 mal= e fittings. Submerge all but the top few fins in water and weld away. No fe= ar of damage. Junk yards usually pile them up for scrap from older cars. Id= eal for us.=C2=A0 =C2=A0U-pick it yards are good because you can check if p= ressure is still in the system. Probably a good unit. Never mention "AIR PLANE" when buying things. Lynn E. Hanover In a message dated 9/6/2019 11:26:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, flyrotary@la= ncaironline.net writes: Finn asks-"BTW, what happens when you lay down (at a 20 degree) angle a rad= iator that is designed to be upright?" I always wondered about that myself. The stock FD (3rd gen) radiator has to= be at about a 45 degree angle (?) to the incoming airstream. And it has 2 = "supplemental" staged electric fans (no pump fan), one is always on if the = AC is on, the fans have different blades and different speeds controlled by= ECU and temp sensor. I suppose the fins are canted or perhaps they are bes= t tilted to airflow to create turbulence and help remove some heat.........= .don't know much about radiator design............MW --Homepage:=C2=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/Archive and UnSub:=C2=A0 http://= mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html --Homepage:=C2=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/Archive and UnSub:=C2=A0 http://= mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_Part_2206784_1868245547.1567785739142 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Less than 90 degrees to airflow reduces efficiency, Turning vanes as found in large air handlers in buildings are required.

When building cars I went to the NAPA store nearby and looked in their picture books for any shape you might have in mind. Then they can look up that picture by part number. I used GM evaps for oil coolers with dash AN-12 male fittings. Submerge all but the top few fins in water and weld away. No fear of damage. Junk yards usually pile them up for scrap from older cars. Ideal for us.   U-pick it yards are good because you can check if pressure is still in the system. Probably a good unit.
Never mention "AIR PLANE" when buying things.

Lynn E. Hanover

In a message dated 9/6/2019 11:26:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:

Finn asks-
"BTW, what happens when you lay down (at a 20 degree) angle a radiator that is designed to be upright?"

I always wondered about that myself. The stock FD (3rd gen) radiator has to be at about a 45 degree angle (?) to the incoming airstream. And it has 2 "supplemental" staged electric fans (no pump fan), one is always on if the AC is on, the fans have different blades and different speeds controlled by ECU and temp sensor. I suppose the fins are canted or perhaps they are best tilted to airflow to create turbulence and help remove some heat..........don't know much about radiator design............
MW

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