X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=G+5i7Os5 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=eFBQFpTHgAL+VL8MZ9Ce/g==:117 a=xycr6CVXJRVtFs4WRGOeRA==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=J70Eh1EUuV4A:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=YT3Yr15HAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=QWokSc7cjevfBmTiThcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=a-W-UnD5-Vm4Ld2-m9Dr:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=wTiroRwonzHjqvaCcHYi:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Marc Wiese cardmarc@charter.net" Received: from [47.43.20.26] (HELO impout002.msg.chrl.nc.charter.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 12924051 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:08:45 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=47.43.20.26; envelope-from=cardmarc@charter.net Received: from HomeDesktop ([97.94.202.172]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id 5bZti1L7owfOv5bZtiUrFg; Wed, 04 Sep 2019 20:08:29 +0000 Authentication-Results: charter.net; none X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=Edt8v8uC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=xycr6CVXJRVtFs4WRGOeRA==:117 a=xycr6CVXJRVtFs4WRGOeRA==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=YT3Yr15HAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=QWokSc7cjevfBmTiThcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=a-W-UnD5-Vm4Ld2-m9Dr:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=wTiroRwonzHjqvaCcHYi:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: The ultimate question... Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 15:08:30 -0500 Message-ID: <00e001d5635c$85e90680$91bb1380$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQCQ3z9JBjsLcNhZEnS3m74Qyb9wZ6mk+alQ Content-Language: en-us X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfD6iUFYrKtgCZyE08RUlk9YNGzs2NWacVlUsqxDUm5hdT6IuhYr8GThduVVf8IzZETfLbYp+0aSGNNMGR0HhVQJhor+AQgkE/KVQ+owhzNCGo/M+AneT ZzzbOxJAqoj/iuyLGcCyz0T0MmfzUPMdMQtBhNbNzhuYmj5+4WQ0TB287zZd+cbK0Sn8Yb19Myfi+w== That does not sound to me like a suitable aircraft configuration.=20 A single turbo would suffice, the controller/wastegate would dial in the = boost needed to maintain SL pressure in the manifold at any condition, = there isn't a reason to 'overboost' the engine. Too complicated and = unnecessary-especially all the hot turbo piping could get very messy. Is the engine builder using ceramic rotor tip seals? Good idea for = boosted engines. MW -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 2:00 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The ultimate question... Was just talking to the engine builder and the answer to one question = also answered another - The reason that the engine will have two turbos is that they are set up = sequentially - the first one operates as a turbo normaliser to 500 rpm = above cruise rpm. Once the throttle is opened past that point for = takeoff/climbout the second turbo kicks in to more power. That also explains the fuel efficiency at cruise - only a small turbo is = operating to provide turbo normalisation. Hope this makes sense! On 4/09/2019 11:21 am, Kent Bedford kbedford@alphalink.com.au wrote: > Kind of strange how it worked out, but when we made a small change to=20 > the design that gave a tangible benefit we suddenly found ourselves=20 > with room for an extra 40 gallons on top of what we already had - 90=20 > gallons should be enough for range to be governed by bladder size=20 > instead of fuel tank size. > > On 4/09/2019 6:08 am, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com wrote: >> On 9/3/2019 2:31 AM, Kent Bedford kbedford@alphalink.com.au wrote: >>> ...if someone has an about 450hp four rotor + turbo engine with=20 >>> effective cooling, and resolves the torsional vibration and=20 >>> resonance issues (which will partly be resolved by having four=20 >>> rotors anyway), are there any other foreseeable likely or possible=20 >>> issues that may need to be overcome to successfully operate it with=20 >>> a good 500hp-rated PSRU like a Ballistic or similar? >>> >> Figuring out where to put the fuel, unless you're talking about a=20 >> time-to-climb record attempt or Reno racer. Any usable a/c at that=20 >> power level may require your own refinery. >> Charlie >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> --=20 >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub:=20 >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> > > > --=20 > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub:=20 > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html