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[97.43.192.216]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z4sm21635824pfg.166.2019.09.04.07.24.09 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Sep 2019 07:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 08:24:06 -0600 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: The ultimate question... Message-Id: <6324C428-B16B-4381-BE24-69B847B17C9A@gmail.com> References: In-Reply-To: To: Rotary motors in aircraft X-Mailer: iPad Mail (16F203) I found the BSFC 'sweet spot' to be at 5000 - 5200 rpm. No surprise, all th= e old Mazda technical papers showed the same thing. Still, it looks like ma= ybe .45 - .47 lb/hp/hr. In the big picture it don=E2=80=99t really matter.= Fuel turns out to be the least expensive thing for most of us. Time in th= e air is more important : ) Still fixing the RV8 in CO. =20 Sent from my iPad > On Sep 4, 2019, at 01:00, Kent Bedford kbedford@alphalink.com.au wrote: >=20 > Was just talking to the engine builder and the answer to one question also= answered another - >=20 > The reason that the engine will have two turbos is that they are set up se= quentially - the first one operates as a turbo normaliser to 500 rpm above c= ruise rpm. Once the throttle is opened past that point for takeoff/climbout= the second turbo kicks in to more power. >=20 > That also explains the fuel efficiency at cruise - only a small turbo is o= perating to provide turbo normalisation. Hope this makes sense! >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 4/09/2019 11:21 am, Kent Bedford kbedford@alphalink.com.au wrote: >> Kind of strange how it worked out, but when we made a small change to the= design that gave a tangible benefit we suddenly found ourselves with room f= or an extra 40 gallons on top of what we already had - 90 gallons should be e= nough for range to be governed by bladder size instead of fuel tank size. >>=20 >>> On 4/09/2019 6:08 am, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On 9/3/2019 2:31 AM, Kent Bedford kbedford@alphalink.com.au wrote: >>>> ...if someone has an about 450hp four rotor + turbo engine with effecti= ve cooling, and resolves the torsional vibration and resonance issues (which= will partly be resolved by having four rotors anyway), are there any other f= oreseeable likely or possible issues that may need to be overcome to success= fully operate it with a good 500hp-rated PSRU like a Ballistic or similar? >>>>=20 >>> Figuring out where to put the fuel, unless you're talking about a time-t= o-climb record attempt or Reno racer. Any usable a/c at that power level may= require your own refinery. >>> Charlie >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List= .html >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.= html >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List= .html