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[67.58.218.7]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e19sm3860110ioe.78.2019.08.30.08.51.19 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Aug 2019 08:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_39965331.706064345761" MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 11:51:17 -0400 Message-ID: <6c785d03-3818-4d9a-9321-92d0a3b94fc0@getmailbird.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Overheated coolant To: "Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com" In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Mailbird/2.5.43.0 X-Mailbird-ID: 6c785d03-3818-4d9a-9321-92d0a3b94fc0@getmailbird.com ------=_NextPart_39965331.706064345761 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I did go with the rotary aviation master rebuild kit when I first did the e= ngine. This time around, I'll go with the Atkins Oring kit. I do have a deep 5" wedge shape oil pan, which I want to add some baffling = inside to help with sloshing, climbing, descending, and over foaming. What = have you guys done? Just a top plate with drain holes drilled, or have you = gone fancy with flapper valves (piano hinges with weights) ? - Matt Boiteau On 2019-08-30 8:58:55 AM, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com wrote: Fwiw, Tracy is retired, but his business is still active. https://www.rotaryaviation.com/store/c1/Featured_Products.html [https://www= .rotaryaviation.com/store/c1/Featured_Products.html] Might be worth checking there for parts. Ask for Laura. Charlie Sent from BlueMail [http://www.bluemail.me/r?b=3D15431] On Aug 30, 2019, at 12:18 AM, "Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com" wrote: Well ran into a little bit of a snag on my RX8 engine=E2=80=A6. While trying different things to cool down the oil, during high-speed taxi = tests I managed to blow out the temporary clear level tube on my coolant ex= pansion tank, which lead to pressure loss, which caused it to overheat. Man= aged to shut down near the hanger and get a water hose on the rads, but I f= eel the engine got baked underneath the fiberglass cowl. *Future note, need= to come up with some flaps that open after shutdown or something, to let t= he heat escape out. Maybe even an electric fan that runs for 5 minutes afte= r shutdown* I know I blew some type of coolant gasket, but unsure if the irons are warp= ed. Going to take apart next weekend. Just wanted to run by my list of mods= , to see if I need to change anything or add/remove. 25hours, 99% ground testing The iron plates were lapped and renitraded Rotor housings were new and welded in P-Ports RotaryAviation master kit (RA super seals) Oil ~125psi at full throttle 20w50 VR1 high zinc RX7 rear pressure regulator 2 washers under front pressure regulator weber jet kit thermal pellet Coolant 1.3bar cap ECU says ~27psi at full throttle, not sure I believe that yet. Lots of nois= e at full throttle on my pressure sensors (pic attached) 70/30 Zerex G-05 =C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ll order the Atkins oring kit, supposedly their brown inner water= jacket seals can handle a bit higher temps. https://www.atkinsrotary.com/s= tore/04-11-Rx8-O-Ring-Kit-ARE317.html [https://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/0= 4-11-Rx8-O-Ring-Kit-ARE317.html] - Matt Boiteau -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com [http://www.flyrotary.com]/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.ht= ml [http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html] ------=_NextPart_39965331.706064345761 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I did go with the rotary aviation m= aster rebuild kit when I first did the engine. This time around, I'll go wi= th the Atkins Oring kit.

I do have a deep 5" wedge shape oil pan, wh= ich I want to add some baffling inside to help with sloshing, climbing, des= cending, and over foaming. What have you guys done? Just a top plate with d= rain holes drilled, or have you gone fancy with flapper valves (piano hinge= s with weights) ?

- Matt Boiteau
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On 2= 019-08-30 8:58:55 AM, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com <flyrotary@la= ncaironline.net> wrote:

Fwiw, Tracy is retired, but his business is stil= l active.
Might be worth checking there for parts. Ask for Laura.
Charlie

On Aug 30, 2019, at 12:18 AM, "Matt Boiteau matt= boiteau@gmail.com" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Well ran into a little bit of a = snag on my RX8 engine=E2=80=A6.
While trying different things to cool down the oil, during high-speed taxi tests I managed to blow out the temporary clear level tube on my coolant expansion tank, which lead to pressure loss, which caused it to overheat. Managed to shut down near the hanger and get a water hose on the rads, but I feel the engine got baked underneath the fiberglass cowl. *Future note, nee= d to come up with some flaps that open after shutdown or something, to let the h= eat escape out. Maybe even an electric fan that runs for 5 minutes after shutdo= wn*

I know I blew some type of coolant gasket, but unsure if the irons are warp= ed. Going to take apart next weekend. Just wanted to run by my list of mods, to= see if I need to change anything or add/remove.

25hours, 99% ground testing
The iron plates were lapped and renitraded
Rotor housings were new and welded in P-Ports
RotaryAviation master kit (RA super seals)

Oil
~125psi at full throttle
20w50 VR1 high zinc
RX7 rear pressure regulator
2 washers under front pressure regulator
weber jet kit
thermal pellet


Coolant
1.3bar cap
ECU says ~27psi at full throttle, not sure I believe that yet. Lots of nois= e at full throttle on my pressure sensors (pic attached)
70/30 Zerex G-05

 

I=E2=80=99ll order the Atkins oring kit, supposedly = their brown inner water jacket seals can handle a bit higher temps. https://www.at= kinsrotary.com/store/04-11-Rx8-O-Ring-Kit-ARE317.html

- Matt Boiteau
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