X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=T4/ysMCQ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=NICTMKMwngqhQ+NMrAV8iA==:117 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=FmdZ9Uzk2mMA:10 a=TzZqC_grXf0A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=PkYCYgy9AAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=xhrNapclg1jb_LjtlYcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=DlB8pVX6JImJ0gMup1UA:9 a=31nhWjB4AOojnur8:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=04jDZsmNAJ9MhMURcWJe:22 From: "David COOK hoursaway1@comcast.net" Received: from resqmta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.13) with ESMTPS id 12877955 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 22:45:30 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.252.207.39; envelope-from=hoursaway1@comcast.net Received: from resomta-ch2-13v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.109]) by resqmta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id 1Ly3iszQ3GZBb1M3GioYQ5; Sat, 24 Aug 2019 02:45:14 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=20190202a; t=1566614714; bh=yeBvuUFbtTI7jW1aO5unNf98De7mN15x0vmxCl8s17U=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Message-ID:Subject: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SqEuvDvqRsG5kS8mdefNRqVY0aO9PqzMvTkeLfG7mUMLH4slbCgVOiDX//K8jpxtX /7ddVJXC5TwpR4zLzomUUXF6lDLqGLHYShtckn+X+muNAmDVA0vYmbMAktrI9T3Q4j Snt+mAj73dXpvvWA25W1WynA3r3kiVCOqosfdrLmz6X0JpBt2AjQiglR1X1uheJxVs xEpG5utBjiyUp3vF3de7ac1a9eYebZADV5nHE1oMlrm8kWW1Vgjo+PIJCyTXisSM+4 k1mFoowwJ5wDPMmJSNHGaTLpcV9Bb0fNBYEEKRQWEIybcPr9MbL+jU8DINHPfgjlrH QgI9M4pg52qYw== Received: from oxapp-ch2f-76o.email.comcast.net ([96.117.82.109]) by resomta-ch2-13v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPS id 1M3Fi6W7cg0Cn1M3Fiz7UR; Sat, 24 Aug 2019 02:45:13 +0000 X-Xfinity-VAAS: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduvddrudegledgieefucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuvehomhgtrghsthdqtfgvshhipdfqfgfvpdfpqffurfetoffkrfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucgotffhvedqqdeurggukfhmphhorhhtrghntggvucdlvddtmdenucfjughrpeffhfhrvffkjghfufggtgfrkgfoihesrgdtsggsredtjeenucfhrhhomhepffgrvhhiugcuvefqqffmuceohhhouhhrshgrfigrhidusegtohhmtggrshhtrdhnvghtqeenucffohhmrghinheptghhihhpshhmohhtohhrshhpohhrthhsrdgtohhmpdguihhffhdruggvshhighhnnecukfhppeeliedruddujedrkedvrddutdelpddutdegrdduvdelrdduleeirdeitdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghlohepohigrghpphdqtghhvdhfqdejiehordgvmhgrihhlrdgtohhmtggrshhtrdhnvghtpdhinhgvthepleeirdduudejrdekvddruddtledpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehhohhurhhsrgifrgihudestghomhgtrghsthdrnhgvthdprhgtphhtthhopehflhihrhhothgrrhihsehlrghntggrihhrohhnlhhinhgvrdhnvghtnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-Xfinity-VMeta: sc=20;st=legit Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 22:45:13 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: David COOK To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-ID: <217651257.658473.1566614713260@connect.xfinity.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Broken Apex seal leads to dissassembly. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_658472_1583087072.1566614713258" X-Priority: 3 Importance: Medium X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.8.4-Rev38 X-Originating-IP: ::ffff:104.129.196.60 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite ------=_Part_658472_1583087072.1566614713258 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rads are evap. cores modified for -12 hoses (from GM full sized PU truck aprox. 2006), oil cooler is the Mazda RX7 cooler, upper eng. filter boss cut off and bypassed, remote oil filter w/-10 hoses, rotor housings ok, rotors ok, E-shaft ok. One other note, Apex seals only had one spring under each?, vids that I have seen they show a long and a short spring, diff. design? David,,,,,,thanks for the info. > On August 23, 2019 at 12:58 PM "Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com" wrote: > > https://chipsmotorsports.com/ is in Detroit. Can lap and renitride the irons. Are your rotor housing okay? > > Out of curiosity, what size rads do you have for coolant and oil ? > > - Matt Boiteau > > > > > > On 2019-08-23 12:54:26 PM, David COOK hoursaway1@comcast.net wrote: > > > > Am in need of info., where to send my irons ( all three), to be lapped or resurfaced, (or purchase some replacements) this is a 13B so the coolant seal grooves are in the irons. I am in Lansing Michigan for distance reference. This was supposed to be a "professional" built eng. w/aviation mods. the mods are ok, but the wear in the irons in the combustion area looks more like MANY hrs. of use. I only put 80 hrs. on the hobbs. 20 was ground testing the rest in the air. Temps ran 190F coolant, 202F oil, pretty regular. Lubrication was 1oz. 2cyc.oil and 1/2 oz. MMOil for every gal. fuel. On prep for Osh. trip the next day, wanted some T&G's, runup normal very strong could not hold back with brakes, aprox. 90% throttle about foot off runway started missing, set back down and at turn off to taxiway eng. quit running, had to lean EC2 all the way to left to get started again. Checked EM2 bar graph, all in center so not fuel MAP scramble. Thinking SAG (never experienced before so don't know the symptoms) changed plugs, no joy, tested coils, all ok, checked comp. no needle jump on 2 chambers, dissassem. found broken chunk from Apex seal rotor #2. Done crying now need to fix (short summer). David R. Cook RV6A Rotary Lansing MI > > > > > ------=_Part_658472_1583087072.1566614713258 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Rads are evap. cores modified for -12 hose= s (from GM full sized PU truck aprox. 2006), oil cooler is the Mazda RX7 co= oler, upper eng. filter boss cut off and bypassed, remote oil filter w/-10 = hoses,  rotor housings ok, rotors ok, E-shaft ok. One other note, Apex= seals only had one spring under each?, vids that I have seen they show a l= ong and a short spring, diff. design? David,,,,,,thanks for the info.

On August 23, 2019 at 12:58 PM "Matt Boitea= u mattboiteau@gmail.com" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: <= br>
https://chipsmotorsports.com/ is in Detroit. Can = lap and renitride the irons. Are your rotor housing okay?

Out of curiosity, what size rads do you have for coolant and oil ?
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- Matt Boiteau

On 2019-08-23 12:54:26 PM, David COOK hoursaway1@comcast.net <flyro= tary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Am in need of info., where to send m= y irons ( all three), to be lapped or resurfaced, (or purchase some replace= ments) this is a 13B so the coolant seal grooves are in the irons.  I = am in Lansing Michigan for distance reference. This was supposed to be a &#= 34;professional" built eng. w/aviation mods. the mods are ok, but the w= ear in the irons in the combustion area looks more like MANY hrs. of use. I= only put 80 hrs. on the hobbs. 20 was ground testing the rest in the air.&= #160; Temps ran 190F coolant, 202F oil, pretty regular.   Lubrication = was 1oz. 2cyc.oil and 1/2 oz. MMOil for every gal. fuel.  On prep for = Osh. trip the next day, wanted some T&G's, runup normal very strong= could not hold back with brakes, aprox. 90% throttle about foot off runway= started missing, set back down and at turn off to taxiway eng. quit runnin= g, had to lean EC2 all the way to left to get started again. Checked EM2 ba= r graph, all in center so not fuel MAP scramble. Thinking SAG (never experi= enced before so don't know the symptoms)  changed plugs, no joy, t= ested coils, all ok, checked comp. no needle jump on 2 chambers, dissassem.= found broken chunk from Apex seal rotor #2. Done crying now need to fix (s= hort summer). David R. Cook RV6A Rotary  Lansing MI


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