X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=T4/ysMCQ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=gTgBEJriY5Vot0Yhb3gGRA==:117 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=xXDCcK6TKBsA:10 a=FmdZ9Uzk2mMA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=qWgMvVGVLRc57JCF2ZoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=W7kF8qZQKp8ewvoUcTAA:9 a=zKnmPbQqiML8ngwJ:21 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 From: "Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com" Received: from mail-ed1-f48.google.com ([209.85.208.48] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.13) with ESMTPS id 12876118 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 13:39:19 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.208.48; envelope-from=bartrim@gmail.com Received: by mail-ed1-f48.google.com with SMTP id r12so14595359edo.5 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:39:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=MwUGC6lLMLUDiYct4oB0XxexpeULaYS+wjledlVdet4=; b=ggHIOc03+nfgPx9sGVqjQfXKM2z3FE+fPC4p2vLXUFIqzLQW3aBu7E7/hER/Cr0MmA 0js+yfV++IPXE5u/9xXwxmRWS09FrpND9mARteIZpeoPh/8jBLfLjsDMLXAreIwdxzGT Wr9s/hTa0qZaW5WJ2RlrY0EGTPMqO4D2/jys0PdW9V9VJPQlEOFWHi/iBDxiCEgokve4 OFFFuKYhOk1aeNCN6XvtTxHCCfjNykLLZ8PwRkZ76sandeRLG08N0sQ49y49A3KHrPSg QXyBWGwzqIOCNE1GlbrcmJMRaWemDIYdG3yriqcV2JwZeOPb7eU+508OGj4+EYdsH4Xd 7K9A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=MwUGC6lLMLUDiYct4oB0XxexpeULaYS+wjledlVdet4=; b=ncIdvaB6BHHONLIv7CUC3YnSeqVlOZbFbqQnU18/GneMLw1YVeQPI/yKQ6j6s2smeo P1oBlzOpOrH41b1vfabUBqrjYjUdMbDOalFb66r4EKzBeMGS++D+tnG/TTBS+0RSV7bB thIN2QFJYWeCaulihXYrhNOwGnmq3gkwIwwjhrEjMEGKYC8i2a69rYsVawnluW0M4DUI BwRFkUtXHuqphM3Au/T5QyBa4TYRgywAYdRFFHL+635KXfFtaAjpDHNft+F351tC7gnB vCSHtU/7fyiDoZ0IblrCHK7KxaHVZ0hRDecJKIxmrV0VItyuRTbJ5xolbWN+HOdVm0H4 5/MQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWGSh+4/guUrcDLsTWFzgMfITPAsG/3w89KLb0m6bEGlKyUrdMw wxgNtUpoM+D4QkwRoObuIGsL8Me6lTdTqHBq1ko1eWo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwE19TkFzEv9fLKHy7QF/EG0XSwzlsygFkzL5SoahLzsQqIMPcaOlDgT+/Tdgzp4J6fz94VT8fdw3d5q1JtIUA= X-Received: by 2002:a50:ba81:: with SMTP id x1mr5671836ede.257.1566581942003; Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:39:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 10:38:50 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Broken Apex seal leads to dissassembly. To: FlyRotary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002a2d950590cc48b8" --0000000000002a2d950590cc48b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi David; Sorry to hear about your engine failure, but as I'm sure you've already deduced, far better to happen at home than at OSH. I'm not sure you're interested in cross border services, but Adam at RX7 Specialties in Calgary, Alberta is very helpful. Last time I had my engine apart I called him to enquire about having the irons lapped. He could do it but for a few bucks more he just sold me some irons that he had that were already lapped and in better overall condition than mine. Due to not having to pay to ship my old ones to him, it was actually a little cheaper and much faster. And for you the dollar is worth more up here, so that should offset the cost of shipping from up here. But if you choose to send your irons up here, do not ever use UPS. Any of the other couriers are fine, but UPS has very expensive brokerage fees, that are nothing short of piracy. Todd (when I get mad about shipping costs and exchange rates, I think about the boys down under and then I don't feel so bad) On Fri., Aug. 23, 2019, 09:54 David COOK hoursaway1@comcast.net, < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Am in need of info., where to send my irons ( all three), to be lapped or > resurfaced, (or purchase some replacements) this is a 13B so the coolant > seal grooves are in the irons. I am in Lansing Michigan for distance > reference. This was supposed to be a "professional" built eng. w/aviation > mods. the mods are ok, but the wear in the irons in the combustion area > looks more like MANY hrs. of use. I only put 80 hrs. on the hobbs. 20 was > ground testing the rest in the air. Temps ran 190F coolant, 202F oil, > pretty regular. Lubrication was 1oz. 2cyc.oil and 1/2 oz. MMOil for every > gal. fuel. On prep for Osh. trip the next day, wanted some T&G's, runup > normal very strong could not hold back with brakes, aprox. 90% throttle > about foot off runway started missing, set back down and at turn off to > taxiway eng. quit running, had to lean EC2 all the way to left to get > started again. Checked EM2 bar graph, all in center so not fuel MAP > scramble. Thinking SAG (never experienced before so don't know the > symptoms) changed plugs, no joy, tested coils, all ok, checked comp. no > needle jump on 2 chambers, dissassem. found broken chunk from Apex seal > rotor #2. Done crying now need to fix (short summer). David R. Cook RV6A > Rotary Lansing MI > --0000000000002a2d950590cc48b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi David;
Sorry to hear about your = engine failure, but as I'm sure you've already deduced, far better = to happen at home than at OSH.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0I'm = not sure you're interested in cross border services, but Adam at RX7 Sp= ecialties in Calgary, Alberta is very helpful. Last time I had my engine ap= art I called him to enquire about having the irons lapped. He could do it b= ut for a few bucks more he just sold me some irons that he had that were al= ready lapped and in better overall condition than mine. Due to not having t= o pay to ship my old ones to him, it was actually a little cheaper and much= faster.
=C2=A0 And for you the dollar is worth more= up here, so that should offset the cost of shipping from up here. But if y= ou choose to send your irons up here, do not ever use UPS. Any of the other= couriers are fine, but UPS has very expensive brokerage fees, that are not= hing short of piracy.

To= dd
(when I get mad about shipping costs and exchange= rates, I think about the boys down under and then I don't feel so bad)=


On Fri., Aug. 23, 2019, 09:54 David COOK hoursaway1@comcast.net, <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
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Am in need of info., where to send my irons ( all three), = to be lapped or resurfaced, (or purchase some replacements) this is a 13B s= o the coolant seal grooves are in the irons.=C2=A0 I am in Lansing Michigan= for distance reference. This was supposed to be a "professional"= built eng. w/aviation mods. the mods are ok, but the wear in the irons in = the combustion area looks more like MANY hrs. of use. I only put 80 hrs. on= the hobbs. 20 was ground testing the rest in the air.=C2=A0 Temps ran 190F= coolant, 202F oil, pretty regular. =C2=A0 Lubrication was 1oz. 2cyc.oil an= d 1/2 oz. MMOil for every gal. fuel.=C2=A0 On prep for Osh. trip the next d= ay, wanted some T&G's, runup normal very strong could not hold back= with brakes, aprox. 90% throttle about foot off runway started missing, se= t back down and at turn off to taxiway eng. quit running, had to lean EC2 a= ll the way to left to get started again. Checked EM2 bar graph, all in cent= er so not fuel MAP scramble. Thinking SAG (never experienced before so don&= #39;t know the symptoms)=C2=A0 changed plugs, no joy, tested coils, all ok,= checked comp. no needle jump on 2 chambers, dissassem. found broken chunk = from Apex seal rotor #2. Done crying now need to fix (short summer). David = R. Cook RV6A Rotary=C2=A0 Lansing MI

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