X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=T4/ysMCQ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=el8rXc1ydXQemGmBowJ8vQ==:117 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=TPB0gybzSFkA:10 a=FmdZ9Uzk2mMA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=JoQWYm39AAAA:8 a=m46Zx8OzZg-XIXCAVzUA:9 a=WfxK7qOOLWJFj2dy:21 a=4T-bmdG6Oi1HOzyy:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=UgSL9YKgb2wTCU6Eae0A:9 a=BhRmj-qjPUzIcyxY:21 a=ZWKja2mb9lSusbiM:21 a=jStS4m14oYT_DQah:21 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 From: "Rob McMillan robmcmillanpls@gmail.com" Received: from mail-qt1-f175.google.com ([209.85.160.175] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.13) with ESMTPS id 12872696 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:44:53 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.160.175; envelope-from=robmcmillanpls@gmail.com Received: by mail-qt1-f175.google.com with SMTP id 44so7940213qtg.11 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 07:44:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Hyog5D2NmH9cxIBHRushofohaaiy7ZwljUhowHOiR3M=; b=aA5rzqqvjHgQe+jv2P8zgkq40mpt03HiMPbufxHEWOqA/IP2TBlJ0V24vxp4ercOeE HreydAYPmOzvxvA3xhrjD7v+KwZi7qn7e/YmmwTWFkDqAS8ZYOqfCywO2Vn98mElrJVg RNtRj8ftzhYnwVzyU2J0uxNCWn7NA2XrRlvPXi24oC7gF8E8cK8ZTE0+6ugwdfob8Ybg coz0YYaZKDEZ5Hdh2YHULZFYI3sqsLoUiEuQzjEwfaLf1uJlj2Bl2v9kvbHsJHTo4ARX yyxVVChKjrNyAyqgEJDTsyLAWP/C8U/SYDRZd/KRCe9cGpL3fTCDXieXgbE/yWKmQ71n C/Hw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Hyog5D2NmH9cxIBHRushofohaaiy7ZwljUhowHOiR3M=; b=Inst8B7JE7W+OYZwIWBBoNRiahTmFFxGjf8MzySjD92hOaOwet0RaRGVxDGZjwVQMT n/8si+0Jt5eCgoDDnfesqxfmpWgNslVS7L36xUjTnZov/87b0EdjgzKeM1D++y1iWPwS 6P9L0obGwjwDzgFELaTln4mhNGAjpN0HK81fe/lcyKA84Ykku1s4iXj/JHxCsSbjsXpK vCTGItpfz/LhZqOev8wNwM/LofLacmgEGJ9B0eFVyZi1c8tE0+LKESe0MobieQkG/fLD leirdQhYVGtJiLEfTXaJI1IRvAFAAxcinL3+UWTkCZg92LUN1a8GjQ4bgpl4Zmm8pyDd HdAA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWb2pfWbzcpufzv7A7JYseQWX/KDEpVdiNHbYYmy/GWIJhCpDkL jQsM1TFt85aHGiSnG2gPXpMcV2mP2uTTf12cTOyPBw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz4+xOEmOLCng1CCdyp3Fu9Rv/jsdZRmrFVE2aEICyWX6D95/6H17zUbFjSCXiyCQcA46xDPr79CfZAxELvrAc= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:4988:: with SMTP id f8mr2725469qtq.2.1566485075957; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 07:44:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 07:45:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Curved aluminum radiators. To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007fa4860590b5ba99" --0000000000007fa4860590b5ba99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" $148 to cut one open would suck, but might it be worth knowing before getting 2 more and doing a bunch of ducting... On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 2:32 AM Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > I'm considering making some changes to my cooling system as it is not > adequate when flying low & slow, as on recent flights on a few hot days. > I'm still using a set of evap cores as they fit the limited space on either > side of the PSRU in an RV cowl. > Bill Jepson made mention of a curved radiator earlier this summer, which > as been simmering on a hot spot way back in my brain ever since. I've spent > the last few days looking real hard at the idea. > The size and shape of the curve looks like it would conform quite nicely > to the bottom of the RV cowl. so that the top of the rad would be > perpendicular to the airflow while the bottom will curve away. This would > require a new ducts to be glassed to take advantage of this, but that would > allow for more time and room to slow down the airflow for greater > efficiency. It would also almost double the square inches of cooling area > than I currently have, however as it is thinner it would provide half of > the cubic inches of volume as I currently have. > The small thick rads I currently use were chosen more with high speeds in > mind (well, and of course ease of installation), but now I'm thinking that > I'd rather have a thinner rad that would perform better on the ground and > in slow flight. These curved rads seem like they could offer some > advantages. > I've just found them listed on Amazon.ca for $148CAD with free shipping > (x2)which seems pretty resonable, so for $300, it might offer a significant > cooling upgrade.... or maybe not. > I wish I could find an old one to cut open to inspect, test weld, check > for fit, etc. > > Does anybody have any thoughts on the idea? I'm on the edge so it wouldn't > take much to push me over, or pull me back.... > > Todd Bartrim > --0000000000007fa4860590b5ba99 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
$148=C2=A0to cut one open wo= uld suck, but might it be worth knowing before getting 2 more and doing a b= unch of ducting...

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 2:32 AM Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
I'm considering making so= me changes to my cooling system as it is not adequate when flying low &= slow, as on recent flights on a few hot days. I'm still using a set of= evap cores as they fit the limited space on either side of the PSRU in an = RV cowl.
=C2=A0 Bill Jepson made mention of a curved radiator earlier t= his summer, which as been simmering on a hot spot way back in my brain ever= since. I've spent the last few days looking real hard at the idea.
The size and shape of the curve looks like it would conform quite ni= cely to the bottom of the RV cowl. so that the top of the rad would be perp= endicular to the airflow while the bottom will curve away. This would requi= re a new ducts to be glassed to take advantage of this, but that would allo= w for more time and room to slow down the airflow for greater efficiency. I= t would also almost double the square inches of cooling area than I current= ly have, however as it is thinner it would provide half of the cubic inches= of volume as I currently have.
=C2=A0The small thick rads I curr= ently use were chosen more with high speeds in mind (well, and of course ea= se of installation), but now I'm thinking that I'd rather have a th= inner rad that would perform better on the ground and in slow flight. These= curved rads seem like they could offer some advantages.
=C2=A0 I= 've just found them listed on Amazon.ca for $148CAD with free shipping = (x2)which seems pretty resonable, so for $300, it might offer a significant= cooling upgrade.... or maybe not.
I wish I could find an old one= to cut open to inspect, test weld, check for fit, etc.

Does anybody have any thoughts on the idea? I'm on the edge so it= wouldn't take much to push me over, or pull me back....

Todd Bartrim
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