X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=T4/ysMCQ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0Q1YK9O9zG3sl5SEd3PLog==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=xXDCcK6TKBsA:10 a=FmdZ9Uzk2mMA:10 a=JoQWYm39AAAA:8 a=EoBDzLNmcGtkY2LI7C0A:9 a=qNQio459aQIzKLRX:21 a=Ji0CWD4D5zgXuCJi:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=lf6CSfUwowIyz1LjIcIA:9 a=TtD37TmyCN8fOu9_:21 From: "Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com" Received: from mail-ed1-f47.google.com ([209.85.208.47] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.13) with ESMTPS id 12871790 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 05:11:35 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.208.47; envelope-from=bartrim@gmail.com Received: by mail-ed1-f47.google.com with SMTP id h8so6888213edv.7 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 02:11:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=yieZA0CV0LqZVnu7QhK3jR43bNpttix+rPqpnevPgic=; b=omQkJqLeVcfPRGpVDP7/mx0LZnlZOnfyuMB8pcifAqdMl2D46g3xW+96f4lwY4CgJb 9bHLB4QV7YM44/iaKe3LVq7sniaJWb8Xwhh54mBOtEvZoRFhVnNbXVlirvwZJBof3YA0 Ye9ML49FmpLAuC9wbEnzNabiPL2X9Z5pvrheVX2Li28JrO8XPr3PNCzBtDL6qrROOwYy 5YVaJevRHdgmK1UDTZxjEPHo2hLkLzNdcFUOLG+V1i76h9VgjEEUhG69DuDVEZ2n0Bk/ LwTbN51o3R3KTgA5Qqj+VD32MBLyq913eTVoOP1DfkAXDTA6DbjeTxXK3ndfS8oKLUjJ 2ERw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=yieZA0CV0LqZVnu7QhK3jR43bNpttix+rPqpnevPgic=; b=bOcaaExlUZSSItBJN2MfugFA3N/5XbcIT2a/gJq79T7B5WEngc1Eaknkv2DWXrEKWu alCQ8pD3vaAa/nRUBbw1xUHxGwTBYDB3yEU9MXwVtqpdpkvE6M8KV3/Bxu4xiVsgTCYb Hp/bkOVG80BI496BPdE38cv8jV+rmIYiS6l003vwQ/xaWxr2Hb4X2vCUcd55++BhnF+o yzcoMdLJnnllfJu++Hzn/0XFcTBD8AC0IExmeCa1qVlGr6JJNLh8jhuw/4zjp75dUkmN mWqxxDXlF5h7HhhlqJpF6d0QoVUe9E35wik/qlzoDpa0nj0A5lDYPT0MUTDKfnkOPUsr DKBg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWKUENBuxx63DPJAL50mf2VSXd1iM0a9KWH9n+C84U9mBhieicl oOdebrKXLfXigLyqfemW5D3Thtj092jr6AnMC8yR1Cc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwp94XkjdTyWibPPZKgMyb77zUsq85MbcWvUeetfhVADbxYK/Y+nEWmTpcsmoKgCEC0n4ENZ/E15X3KUC73rc0= X-Received: by 2002:a50:89d4:: with SMTP id h20mr14522160edh.248.1566465079318; Thu, 22 Aug 2019 02:11:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 02:11:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Curved aluminum radiators. To: FlyRotary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009b1dc10590b11213" --0000000000009b1dc10590b11213 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm considering making some changes to my cooling system as it is not adequate when flying low & slow, as on recent flights on a few hot days. I'm still using a set of evap cores as they fit the limited space on either side of the PSRU in an RV cowl. Bill Jepson made mention of a curved radiator earlier this summer, which as been simmering on a hot spot way back in my brain ever since. I've spent the last few days looking real hard at the idea. The size and shape of the curve looks like it would conform quite nicely to the bottom of the RV cowl. so that the top of the rad would be perpendicular to the airflow while the bottom will curve away. This would require a new ducts to be glassed to take advantage of this, but that would allow for more time and room to slow down the airflow for greater efficiency. It would also almost double the square inches of cooling area than I currently have, however as it is thinner it would provide half of the cubic inches of volume as I currently have. The small thick rads I currently use were chosen more with high speeds in mind (well, and of course ease of installation), but now I'm thinking that I'd rather have a thinner rad that would perform better on the ground and in slow flight. These curved rads seem like they could offer some advantages. I've just found them listed on Amazon.ca for $148CAD with free shipping (x2)which seems pretty resonable, so for $300, it might offer a significant cooling upgrade.... or maybe not. I wish I could find an old one to cut open to inspect, test weld, check for fit, etc. Does anybody have any thoughts on the idea? I'm on the edge so it wouldn't take much to push me over, or pull me back.... Todd Bartrim --0000000000009b1dc10590b11213 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm considering making some changes to my cooling syst= em as it is not adequate when flying low & slow, as on recent flights o= n a few hot days. I'm still using a set of evap cores as they fit the l= imited space on either side of the PSRU in an RV cowl.
=C2=A0 Bill Jeps= on made mention of a curved radiator earlier this summer, which as been sim= mering on a hot spot way back in my brain ever since. I've spent the la= st few days looking real hard at the idea.
The size and shape of = the curve looks like it would conform quite nicely to the bottom of the RV = cowl. so that the top of the rad would be perpendicular to the airflow whil= e the bottom will curve away. This would require a new ducts to be glassed = to take advantage of this, but that would allow for more time and room to s= low down the airflow for greater efficiency. It would also almost double th= e square inches of cooling area than I currently have, however as it is thi= nner it would provide half of the cubic inches of volume as I currently hav= e.
=C2=A0The small thick rads I currently use were chosen more wi= th high speeds in mind (well, and of course ease of installation), but now = I'm thinking that I'd rather have a thinner rad that would perform = better on the ground and in slow flight. These curved rads seem like they c= ould offer some advantages.
=C2=A0 I've just found them liste= d on Amazon.ca for $148CAD with free shipping (x2)which seems pretty resona= ble, so for $300, it might offer a significant cooling upgrade.... or maybe= not.
I wish I could find an old one to cut open to inspect, test= weld, check for fit, etc.

Does anybody have any t= houghts on the idea? I'm on the edge so it wouldn't take much to pu= sh me over, or pull me back....

Todd Bartrim
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