Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #65036
From: Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: airflow characteristics-radiators and spinner
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 15:31:00 -0700
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Hi Bill;
  Sorry to be resurrecting such an old email thread, but ever since you made this post, I've been thinking abut these rads. The possibilities are interesting. Do you have any other possible info on this model or any other suitable rads? 
I searched hi and low for dimensions of this rad, then found one on ebay that was photographed on a sheet of peg board which allows for a good estimation of size. It appears to be approx 12"x14" core and with the tanks being wedge shaped, it looks like it may just be an ideal fit to put 2 of these under an RV cowl. 
My concerns would be; first is it appears to only be approx 1.5" thick. Next is how thick is the aluminum on the tanks? I'm not a bad TIG welder, but I have my limits as to how thin I can reliably weld. And I would have to change the plumbing a little.
And what kind of pressures are they designed for? I use a 20psi cap on my system.
I'm considering ordering one off ebay that's only $40, just to check fitment, however they want $50 for shipping.
Up here there are more snowmobile salvage shops than motorcycle...

Todd Bartrim
C-FSTB


On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 2:24 PM William Jepson wrjjrs@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Group something else to note is that even in the P51 duct later models had a wing section to help direct the airflow into the top section of the duct. The idea has always been to slow the airflow to take advantage of whatever fin pitch is used and then to pinch the duct again to re-speed the airstream to near to the aircraft speed. Never 100% obviously but as close to it as possible. Now I going to pass along a possibility for cooling that I have told a few people but not many. There are a bunch of conformal radiators available to us for a reasonable cost that I am amazed nobody is using. High-performance motorcycle radiators. I worked for Kawasaki years ago and did a lot of engine building even into the water-cooled era. Several motorcycle manufacturers have built beautiful curved aluminum radiators to increase the cooling available on some of their  highest performance models. I have attached a jpeg of the radiator from a Kawasaki ZX7R. 750cc engine rated at about 110 HP. Very high heat rejection requirements. Lots of these components available from motorcycle salvage yards. often with minor damage to the end tanks, but for our use we might modify them anyway. Fitting one, (or two), of these curved radiators inside a cowl would be easyand effective. You might never get a radiator man to make you a ring radiator, but you can buy some that might conform very well to an in-cowl mounting.
Bill Jepson


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