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Hughes bhughes@qnsi.net < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > It happened during initial ground runs and troubleshooting. This is > being made public knowledge for a friend:) > > Bobby > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 9:07 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Coil Diagnostics > > Booby are you postulating what might happen, or did this actually happen > to you? - The HT fried the processors! > > Steve > > > On 19 Aug 2019, at 9:42 pm, Bobby J. Hughes bhughes@qnsi.net > wrote: > > > > Just make sure to position / secure the plugs so than cannot fall off > the engine and into the wiring harness during the test. It does not > end well for the controller. > > > > Bobby > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] > > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 8:21 AM > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Coil Diagnostics > > > > This is what the manual says: > > "Remove all the spark plugs from the engine (or connect the plug wires > > > to spare plugs) and lay them on the engine where you can see the spark > > > gaps. Make sure the body of the plug is in contact with something > > grounded to the engine. Now put the Mode switch in Mode 8 and press > the > > Store switch. This puts the EC3 in ignition diagnostic mode and fires > > all the coils as if the engine were running at about 3000 RPM. You > > should see all plugs firing. To end this diagnostic mode, change the > > Mode switch selection or cycle the power off on the EC3." > > (EC3-A8 13B ENGINE CONTROLLER 07-30-13 INSTALLATION AND PROGRAMMING > > GUIDE 2008 series) > > > > Sure you've got +12V power to the coils? > > Are the coils properly grounded? > > Coils wired correctly to EM3? > > Note the different coil pin-outs from brand to brand. > > > > If yes, I guess you'll have to inspect the program code. > > > > Finn > > > > On 8/19/2019 8:46 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: > >> Hi Guys > >> > >> For those of you with EC3???s. > >> I wanted to check all coils were firing yesterday so plugged the > leads into plugs laying on the top of the engine. > >> I tried to enter the coil diagnostic with Mode 8 and pressing Store. > I got nothing. > >> So I checked the injector diagnostic Mode 1 Cold Start plus Store and > the injectors all lit up. > >> Am I missing/forgetting/Misreading the manual or something else? > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Steve Izett > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >> > > > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --0000000000005e14220590908c39 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Check that the Coils are grounded TO THE ENGINE (DIRECT)
On= Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 8:27 AM Bobby J. Hughes bhughes@qnsi.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
It happened during initial ground runs and= troubleshooting. This is
being made public knowledge for a friend:)

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 9:07 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Coil Diagnostics

Booby are you postulating what might happen, or did this actually happen to you? - The HT fried the processors!

Steve

> On 19 Aug 2019, at 9:42 pm, Bobby J. Hughes bhughes@qnsi.net
<flyrot= ary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
>
> Just make sure to position / secure the plugs so than cannot fall off<= br> the engine and into the wiring harness during the test.=C2=A0 =C2=A0It does= not
end well for the controller.
>
> Bobby
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 8:21 AM
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Coil Diagnostics
>
> This is what the manual says:
> "Remove all the spark plugs from the engine (or connect the plug = wires

> to spare plugs) and lay them on the engine where you can see the spark=

> gaps. Make sure the body of the plug is in contact with something
> grounded to the engine. Now put the Mode switch in Mode 8 and press the
> Store switch. This puts the EC3 in ignition diagnostic mode and fires =
> all the coils as if the engine were running at about 3000 RPM. You > should see all plugs firing. To end this diagnostic mode, change the <= br> > Mode switch selection or cycle the power off on the EC3."
> (EC3-A8 13B ENGINE CONTROLLER 07-30-13 INSTALLATION AND PROGRAMMING > GUIDE 2008 series)
>
> Sure you've got +12V power to the coils?
> Are the coils properly grounded?
> Coils wired correctly to EM3?
> Note the different coil pin-outs from brand to brand.
>
> If yes, I guess you'll have to inspect the program code.
>
> Finn
>
> On 8/19/2019 8:46 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi Guys
>>
>> For those of you with EC3???s.
>> I wanted to check all coils were firing yesterday so plugged the leads into plugs laying on the top of the engine.
>> I tried to enter the coil diagnostic with Mode 8 and pressing Stor= e.
I got nothing.
>> So I checked the injector diagnostic Mode 1 Cold Start plus Store = and
the injectors all lit up.
>> Am I missing/forgetting/Misreading the manual or something else? >>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Steve Izett
>>
>>
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