X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=PNVxBsiC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=2TVAWPfvoq89XoUytuG/Dg==:117 a=zUPC3Z7IA7wgtmHBKo8Wlg==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=CKeqCrOqW6IA:10 a=FmdZ9Uzk2mMA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=djX4rALQeJxaH0f0AeIA:9 a=7Zwj6sZBwVKJAoWSPKxL6X1jA+E=:19 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=5YQ6H4ZxyGn-KoBYtt8s:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pg1-f175.google.com ([209.85.215.175] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.13) with ESMTPS id 12858142 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 19 Aug 2019 09:45:12 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.175; envelope-from=stephen.izett@gmail.com Received: by mail-pg1-f175.google.com with SMTP id i18so1248675pgl.11 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2019 06:45:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=4WP9EYzWuNkPM/8m2MUoOS8s8DlR5jFdxsFOJDNU1NE=; b=qYudkanV4H11l9HT9m+pEXFcP9Xu2dava965pLxO6mW2YJCloDlGf/6/9jByiHlZTF rglWZ/PElOjQDLxRqdSmI3qzDBWYdhw32yfspu8zyU3U87KC81zsEuxpljs1WxNgLz0P Y3RGdyH303/DDufYxp2oyXoCuVyBGj/0OTY+MfMmT8pN9x5HVyh6K4COqkNEYNN/uYvV MZ23gCbsVq2c5K58BCUJdLrHn6mQ81cxLOqf74fjDhDSXCG0Kp4en6aivsbmExMNA0rH yTyq2r5w9hBYbLs3Z7Qf4Gg0+MEEMe80TxJW9K4u6SibPnRjoRltKkjiLJXmiQ4uTWuO 5oiQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=4WP9EYzWuNkPM/8m2MUoOS8s8DlR5jFdxsFOJDNU1NE=; b=puoTOYupKlmCOGxeUqKjZ8zmbeN47fJx09eCsAFC/UkVLHTam38cFeLQXdOI+BwAHM x6UxkqAvsFV1OPIkDxMHwEsIoiiHjN6yiiTMPUIRm88lkCp8PN2F+9y9lxUG0rs3HZAv YWGoM+RIRPz6IC4582rErcfT3qFr04NzBmgFvR0iRnni6I2kCBbpqibiNVuRrNn9RYb2 6wh3mKV22+U804hVsWZ1z5HdFe0ZmGJuQezLdM3XaPcZSOK66u+Wf4Lh0NbJPicniTDF kwvKhJFcdclcei94ERUwanoN4zq/s2vCU7AwO1WXWYp7TDSwSn19V9uyb0wm1/ttr0k4 Y98Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXhmzV0jru+K7tjRBT5/TeBUpJaZCXas2TioAMXAthszKpsdTd4 NOeqysQb+iu9eDXj4VyktOe3L9yS X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzJNmN670eT/OMQiQv6F8Tyst4WqtGUF4za+8etP+yDFRKX0ScFYwM8BFCn7iG/3MKDOU0MIA== X-Received: by 2002:a63:394:: with SMTP id 142mr19983527pgd.43.1566222294410; Mon, 19 Aug 2019 06:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from macbook-pro.lan ([118.208.174.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e9sm15884234pge.39.2019.08.19.06.44.52 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Aug 2019 06:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC3 Coil Diagnostics Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:44:50 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <7A05C6FC-E7B9-44B3-974C-963E4AC0072B@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) HI Finn The aircraft just hours before testing the coils. So all is connected = and functioning. Why did the injector diag work and not the coil diag.=20 I can remember years ago using the coil diag to test the coils. Logically - options are: 1. Tracy changed the sequence for ignition diagnostic. (so its = no longer mode 8 - push store) 2. Manual is incorrect and requires Cold Start (But I tried that = option) 3. The mode select switch is faulty. 4. All coils or fuses for trailing and leading coils have all = failed simultaneously!!! (Not going to happen) Cheers Steve > On 19 Aug 2019, at 9:21 pm, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net = wrote: >=20 > This is what the manual says: > "Remove all the spark plugs from the engine (or connect the plug wires = to spare plugs) and lay them on the engine where you can see the spark = gaps. Make sure the body of the plug is in contact with something = grounded to the engine. Now put the Mode switch in Mode 8 and press the = Store switch. This puts the EC3 in ignition diagnostic mode and fires = all the coils as if the engine were running at about 3000 RPM. You = should see all plugs firing. To end this diagnostic mode, change the = Mode switch selection or cycle the power off on the EC3." > (EC3-A8 13B ENGINE CONTROLLER 07-30-13 INSTALLATION AND PROGRAMMING = GUIDE 2008 series) >=20 > Sure you've got +12V power to the coils? > Are the coils properly grounded? > Coils wired correctly to EM3? > Note the different coil pin-outs from brand to brand. >=20 > If yes, I guess you'll have to inspect the program code. >=20 > Finn >=20 > On 8/19/2019 8:46 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: >> Hi Guys >>=20 >> For those of you with EC3???s. >> I wanted to check all coils were firing yesterday so plugged the = leads into plugs laying on the top of the engine. >> I tried to enter the coil diagnostic with Mode 8 and pressing Store. = I got nothing. >> So I checked the injector diagnostic Mode 1 Cold Start plus Store and = the injectors all lit up. >> Am I missing/forgetting/Misreading the manual or something else? >>=20 >> Cheers >>=20 >> Steve Izett >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html