X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=PNVxBsiC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=KEL5k4CtlTUHR7+issqm/A==:117 a=TEx85ZZbiNXrL5E1adakkg==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=CKeqCrOqW6IA:10 a=FmdZ9Uzk2mMA:10 a=on22okXAAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=mbfBt2G_ASn9LiBqHxoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=NPqpj5bUEVj9vR1HIonK:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pg1-f172.google.com ([209.85.215.172] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.13) with ESMTPS id 12841057 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 08:45:59 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.172; envelope-from=stephen.izett@gmail.com Received: by mail-pg1-f172.google.com with SMTP id i18so49427353pgl.11 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 05:45:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=2YeAQ6h7m/8NiNLp2mJnbnxtYPvnS4OOYaCa2PCZqR4=; b=oogKI3s6sz4ygiDpg4NQ1nkbswL1MN9fD8HT+BzBKuBl95fRFyj/Fj+jxV1E1Dit4k dhVhIpQGaa1QEn2lSIv49J4/2jJ6dvntjHeCzEPloMwuvgBq549pyBvF5oHhl919qKvt oCCWIDko2LSUk9NQLS1m9JOKNdnZHbDzPTCIRK+b5YhcrzuHrnx8WDQN6ywOYWFsLo0q X/PV/JTErNly1sonvaiWeHYkCHwStX97vYxpgNGhAcIdfZEsp2SxHBwPfa/8t+c+4ZA2 l50IjhICsmVKq7UykgwVR72PMFWBfmW+5APN5dGtN1T155SWdL2D7VPkaDKdihcUsCqV oFMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=2YeAQ6h7m/8NiNLp2mJnbnxtYPvnS4OOYaCa2PCZqR4=; b=F7R+mRYyBusRcxBku9JlVQkLKUYtqyplzFtKCU8aXYA2MjPXpVKGAgL3YXXQ6Jr5Th 7ZC3ipZdpcrCOIw3q5vCGm8g5I9BIfrMPxnbdeb5j4qz36LMguB76UVjVNzGjfkc64UN KjvncljvztOZ7Nn78oBStKLxwhCTJ9sW2AugDS96mjJHn1zLZBo+cWZpRwTdeR/aYaBB bnxIX+cfTMeZJaO+G2k4BWTl5EzPPXuj4bF3qqLizWp/gEj3K4LwQy16heJ6X4+akpBR B6lUoGAglMbxs5Gd/M82MAStlSLJjwb3WuCQ19AFa+h3mydJgwOhoRIFHUsPDhx1Wjwn RLMg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVLd4GmO/qhV8Tu4S4StOYqEIOPh+QuWaGO8BLFrCAnMqvaNZTO cIzSv7reUOTLL5Tpyf5qfwKIcMyp X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzbIwS9Wz1xLfJ8cv7TRzn1IKdqL9OIRSg0U9wYb1wueITynev4WpuAzGnuxXhBxS8WpvCCpA== X-Received: by 2002:aa7:9907:: with SMTP id z7mr15429004pff.13.1565613941366; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 05:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from steves-mbp.lan ([118.208.184.5]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 16sm40743994pfc.66.2019.08.12.05.45.40 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Aug 2019 05:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] RE [FlyRotary] first Flight of Glasair - finally Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 20:45:38 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <51F7528B-017A-4091-B523-96AAABA1275D@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) Thanks Jeff I've tried to seal the cowl as much as possible. The gear door is not = very well sealed, but all the rest as pretty tight. My concern is if the exit is not enough then the air will spill around = the entry rather then getting to the exchangers. I=E2=80=99ll keep you guys abreast of the testing. Steve > On 12 Aug 2019, at 8:17 pm, Jeff Whaley jwhaley@datacast.com = wrote: >=20 > Congratulations Steve - a major milestone accomplished. > A couple things: yes, the increase in airspeed will help : 110k - 150k = is about 36%; will be interesting to see if your cooling follows in = linear fashion. Too much pressure in the cowl from an undersized outlet = is highly unlikely - to over-pressurise (a balloon or tire) it takes = both a sealed inlet and a seal outlet - the cowling will flow as much = air as it can; the rest will simply never enter the openings. On the = other hand, if you have leaks into the cowling that are not part of your = cooling ducts this DOES increase pressure under the cowling and will = work against the low pressure area needed behind your heat exchangers. > Good luck and keep up the posts as you move forward ... Jeff >=20 > Hi People >=20 > The Glasair has finally left the ground and had a successful first = flight. > I've attached a graph of the data. OAT was 63F > I was really very pleased given our smallish 20in2 coolant inlet area = and <9in2 oil inlet area for ~190hp. > The temps are a bit hot (~220F) but we didn't go beyond 110 knots. I = suspect when we get the airspeed up above 150knots into her nose we'll = see some improvement. > My hunch is we might have too much pressure in the cowl. The exit air = area is approx. 30in2. >=20 > Appreciate any of your thoughts from the first flight data. >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Steve Izett > Glasair Super II RG Renesis 4 port RD1C EC3 EM3 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html