X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=JejCUnCV c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0ZaxPN1c1HvEe3v7duvqCA==:117 a=Q/ga6ogm2rCWgcvzDGMIiA==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=DDNF8ybvv5wA:10 a=E5NmQfObTbMA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=XIwAzROjFzoi47YNVqcA:9 a=SXpoMPDexQcbevbC:21 a=nwWoCUFD72JsJ1LK:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com" Received: from mail-wm1-f41.google.com ([209.85.128.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.12) with ESMTPS id 12571737 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 May 2019 16:44:32 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.128.41; envelope-from=breytenbachleroux@gmail.com Received: by mail-wm1-f41.google.com with SMTP id f204so9807673wme.0 for ; Sat, 18 May 2019 13:44:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:date:subject:message-id :references:in-reply-to:to; bh=Q6r+qkWqpgegm6V0RJ/a3Dykz/d5B1gEIcZe8waUTlc=; b=YML+ZnyK2bXDE8/BEYpebp/kJjSJd38aB47NC1FXbB8gYrPqVLdf6vj66U8PBScXEq iwnAaSg5txuHcsgn/Bx41pZBq9ea/QVWhMvofvn1VefY7lbBbACUSKARdhHO1GFyn4Vs L6KXjXxQJNTiRejBFtGGwILLfco7E0clKK4nWRjI6Ns4xa7beXh/6Z7v/FgHkvvC6sUD SL2Jf6Oxa7WOPtKVX9PmuQAaBT34kSD8iPALFY/LplJ0+BotwS3jft8UDhgiLOR9L/XG HL2t4YRRdXpb+dbOqK3qHbLvCo1eaVXoLLAybc4TmVuaDXPwvKSkAEhw71R4rbG3p/1l bnHQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:date :subject:message-id:references:in-reply-to:to; bh=Q6r+qkWqpgegm6V0RJ/a3Dykz/d5B1gEIcZe8waUTlc=; b=fbROMNW1fWxBXGA+mtF4Jc3bxf8VTqUWR0B+il/mPZHQ9TSwZW1Q4/PlHbgtRNhrYD 8ZPCWp0foy8YxYpWs1SDFfpXDL9+38taUR2JlDtsvJiCCGGj5fKel0a+Zz2z77TAmSut qcnn8Q7NC0lLuRbxrpDxD9YyUvP7SEps24piZBLFgAcoQjbVhIyHgk01lQmBC/huYxt3 p6SGPY9LQP4V2wM3IpstKxegEy6f71Da7Dhart4ctTYAUYtha10Wm8vvSaxKUwiaQIM8 Cbawv1EZOjmQzkfEnzaVjDk1ekHlCvBkL/rXmxpU1oq/YoZvI5GDkEmks47mnkZWGDCZ 1jRw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVLYraM6LvOxfyd5YxaqLyBwrixbw8p101rrrKVvsm1EHPf8xAU G5wtAXDgBtU7MoDfOYvmG/kx7XUf X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzlkBXee8etUwm+VduSv2plkhEd6btRcz7Vrxh5XEpBrRVei+nd/8cOwEWkzGzo1WuvmxHibA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:217:: with SMTP id 23mr21837640wmi.115.1558212254437; Sat, 18 May 2019 13:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.251] ([160.226.128.22]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f7sm8121111wmc.26.2019.05.18.13.44.12 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 18 May 2019 13:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 22:44:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New Member Message-Id: <2D4B4645-375B-4898-B9C7-79D69F389F92@gmail.com> References: In-Reply-To: To: Rotary motors in aircraft X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16E227) David: Yes i have read an article about the installation and expecially the "= trials and tribulations " and how he sorted out all the growing pains of the= installation. For all the R&D that was done i am very grateful. My installation is a footprint of his setup but only a p port. Thanks let us now when the "bluebird RV6 " is in the hangar. Regards Le Roux Sent from my iPhone > On 18 May 2019, at 21:49, David Gray todavidgray@yahoo.com wrote: >=20 > I have not yet finalized the purchase of Ed=E2=80=99s aircraft. I plan to= go to NC in 2 or 3 weeks to pick up and bring back to Dallas. Ed could acc= urately state how many hours he has on the current installation, which is pl= ugs up. I know it is several hundred. There was apparently much debate abo= ut the pro=E2=80=99s and con=E2=80=99s of the plugs up installation back at t= he time. He says that none of the con=E2=80=99s that had been postulated by= others ever appeared in those several hundred hours of flight time. I have= been very impressed with the design and analysis that Ed put into every asp= ect of his installation. Maybe Ed will chime in here soon. >=20 > David Gray >=20 >=20 >> On May 16, 2019, at 12:47 AM, Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail= .com wrote: >>=20 >> Neil: The engine gets a "side sump' the, oil flow in gravity to the >> sump, is still the same in a normal position or 90 degree >> anticlockwise (pilot view) >>=20 >> The oil pick-up in the sump must just be the same length otherwise it >> will have problems in suction. >>=20 >> I have designed some drawings and ideas can post in on the group for disc= ussion. >>=20 >> The same principle=E2=80=99s that Ed used in his engine setup. >> Wondering how many hours Ed`s 13B logged ? Maybe David Gray can help >> me, saw that he bought the RV 6 >>=20 >>=20 >> Le R. Breytenbach >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 6:45 AM Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com >> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Le Roux, >>>=20 >>> You are no different to me in Australia -- a long way f= rom anywhere. In fact one wag called his farm "worlds end" so I am close!!!= I have never been in any discussion with a Plugs up engine, but I do recal= l it creates grief as well. What do you do with the sump? Sure anything ca= n be altered, but every time you alter something it takes both time and mone= y. I no longer have either, so tend to keep it simple and standard where po= ssible. Welcome to the group, there are many brilliant minds here with lots= of experience and great advice. >>>=20 >>> Neil. >>>=20 >>> On 5/16/2019 2:34 PM, Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com wr= ote: >>>=20 >>> Dave - thank you i feel sometimes a bit " isolated " here in South Afric= a in the experimental builders class. Has also joinned the EAA in USA to "st= ay on par" with the new technologies in the experimental class. >>> I have allready converted my 13B turbo model to a p port 44 mm inside di= ameter. >>> Regarding the slidethrottle and intakes i think i must go with a plugs u= p mount with a downdraft holley and leaning block. >>> Or if somebody on the group can helped me on the "plugs up topic." Has n= ot scroll all the threads on the group yet - forgive me if it was an old top= ic. >>> Here in South Africa some of the websites are blocked by servers and can= 't get hold off more info. >>> I saw that David Gray bought Ed's bird ,saw a article years ago about hi= s plugs up mount, is it still relevant? Seems much more practical for the ex= aust outlet and the correct intake runner length. >>>=20 >>> Le Roux Breytenbach >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>=20 >>> On 15 May 2019, at 21:28, David Leonard wdleonard@gmail.com wrote: >>>=20 >>> Glad to have you on board. I think the rotary is a great choice for a V= ision. >>>=20 >>> Dave Leonard >>>=20 >>>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 9:22 AM Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@g= mail.com wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Hi i am a new member on the group.I am from South Africa and busy build= ing a Vision Ex composite aircraft. >>>> The 13B Mazda is my engine of choice and sure that will find more info o= n the mailing group. >>>>=20 >>>> Le Roux Breytenbach >>>> ZA >>>>=20 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> -- >>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/L= ist.html >>=20 >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Lis= t.html >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List= .html