X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=JejCUnCV c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=xNgbTRE38xHPxNDZXNwlTQ==:117 a=3X/zGqxJapnRa/qvQMN4+Q==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=L_pwz-5ZJCQA:10 a=E5NmQfObTbMA:10 a=363rIE7XHkoA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=4vRUq4gVOxcc879zHo0A:9 a=DQjB2z91w9PmzPFy:21 a=Gz2BnornUO5KG7tQ:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "David Gray todavidgray@yahoo.com" Received: from sonic311-24.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([98.137.65.205] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.12) with ESMTPS id 12571434 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 May 2019 15:49:49 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.137.65.205; envelope-from=todavidgray@yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1558208972; bh=gCekpDV634mejCjmUH0mkTL3r4jRhLaoCfmJlkq/3BM=; h=From:Subject:Date:References:To:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=kXTl+dEH83quoeGWGZ+6L4WArmVVVsmuZiZDxmPkZJ/scVk8mFPsIbDKk2YAa8h5NDJvNDqFV8VZKqfLt7ZFnF6DiSOGLVYtUVFwHYbX7+w6FO9beAGJyjgbcRteE95DvObNlyebsiVRnnA0iREX9nOysjrfr9lNI5pVDYPfCSfu/RgfNXDQDohSX79jdjdaRc3RHZQKaRUglq80pQU6EOfLMv2S0NgpYrQ53EcNeQULOPh9ozOl7pA/I2r5Cx+wS5+QpTWyUzlOe3zl9t/3KX4a7SyhYOM1vflCcwhh4kMc67PQRa6tnAbfwzZ3kPuslGVDskXdGixPIHAi3xk8jA== X-YMail-OSG: fSsNIOIVM1myoFVbpVWtF448tIwvLM41Trl2_Wax2LsfgwYVl9ITPL8fWnSzv3C 2PUhKegd2ttiA_HPP82VkLk9APpXAYsEdq9eTJHbJXsmTWlbTnn5D0oM3c6mFCZY7gIsCaNxNVrM spAoSkLaybOuuN3.dc3H9BBcoTXAuImKetue8tvEJC6O6QfFdTQdL4q1.5lvZfgGq9PgJo1KkA2q cSZ5CnbG2GzfHCPoik0pPIk_qxRgsEYgjXWt_J.BofZ5sTlWCmpypxQiEz9wAPVUoW.fXcdeGi7c 0ypRfV3VxhA0rVJAJ_zCnx0ujKGrT.J6Zz6WG.8WS32IiWSYO0TJ5_.lK2cs95v1hgo1rGTb2qiQ nSepHYU8blZJ24fNvLGnL_SW78Yc_Dx37Vwi1uGau4lK3cQkWFisWORlw1DcyOrLO7OHobPWhPg7 YoG2lcLi1.lS5Ho6hqsAZJBEnQr0OrYzmw5nm_cXttOnx7AroPW8svvLbdrwxw5si37p5PaEmA36 6mxv3S7axFT9A_LtgrIOB9avn5Zd_Y0.eoUhvPBqINj6183mF5sSoUIHc.0DE2JkQZfMGTPYyq3m QtQ15ohP4ZCkozCk64YZPwOD.hahN3cl4NB6PiL6PM3z6kuL6FxN1z26xmeSS9hB06VPqM.qXHo5 6Z2NmPUQpFtWsRkpl2MExjQwbgCELI9wwP0HJdV7l2l58S_I.RoVccscE3ZKnw4ZyKlvasOlk_F5 _C091yNL9.GVFd2PQcjVI_MP00UnZAWM3d1CD0qlcaDne0oZ2vKnzbwmv9ZS.2NCt_60.4OSPgIF LOs.yuAEDwDDrXD5xdj9hbPeQon5WN9Fqf7xmM2fVImDR79DhweGjbHQqxRTUGaz5S8St2Vl3m_V w2Zu6jc0alfxeXerDpHdXjul.w7OkMGipUuJajQdXn9Hou1CiKEk8nss_PXml9MREi_MR4vwMrlo Ec3xNvxfNDpGNM5kmXLX.kgBUDs4.c3mGldLBUemZqr1NSB3FvqFylbqh6qkuAr3P6h2YuROJyBc ZhZU22MjlbbdfTFuaWB.E_PuENLnGqUOfdBzgamk66FbdDnFwbtUunhmk6wAghfgtdWe3c_Zx7dj .jGX6KKVtzz7Bn_rXKhjZ76.u_6KGn.o1YJ7AsJPhNGUuSoHQMqzt.y713Acc822dKXRTiN.Mr33 UjVla0yQ.Mz_pXiLpC7v16opCoBIg8OiEdUkl9Xoem5W0 Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic311.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 18 May 2019 19:49:32 +0000 Received: from 98.156.201.136 (EHLO [192.168.0.3]) ([98.156.201.136]) by smtp403.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID b9e24b6433e5900b268005ba9073f32c for ; Sat, 18 May 2019 19:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] New Member Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 14:49:25 -0500 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <2AA49412-26B4-410F-B0AE-8D5DF5ADDB52@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) I have not yet finalized the purchase of Ed=E2=80=99s aircraft. I plan = to go to NC in 2 or 3 weeks to pick up and bring back to Dallas. Ed = could accurately state how many hours he has on the current = installation, which is plugs up. I know it is several hundred. There = was apparently much debate about the pro=E2=80=99s and con=E2=80=99s of = the plugs up installation back at the time. He says that none of the = con=E2=80=99s that had been postulated by others ever appeared in those = several hundred hours of flight time. I have been very impressed with = the design and analysis that Ed put into every aspect of his = installation. Maybe Ed will chime in here soon. David Gray > On May 16, 2019, at 12:47 AM, Le Roux Breytenbach = breytenbachleroux@gmail.com wrote: >=20 > Neil: The engine gets a "side sump' the, oil flow in gravity to the > sump, is still the same in a normal position or 90 degree > anticlockwise (pilot view) >=20 > The oil pick-up in the sump must just be the same length otherwise it > will have problems in suction. >=20 > I have designed some drawings and ideas can post in on the group for = discussion. >=20 > The same principle=E2=80=99s that Ed used in his engine setup. > Wondering how many hours Ed`s 13B logged ? Maybe David Gray can help > me, saw that he bought the RV 6 >=20 >=20 > Le R. Breytenbach >=20 >=20 > On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 6:45 AM Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com > wrote: >>=20 >> Le Roux, >>=20 >> You are no different to me in Australia -- a long = way from anywhere. In fact one wag called his farm "worlds end" so I am = close!!! I have never been in any discussion with a Plugs up engine, = but I do recall it creates grief as well. What do you do with the sump? = Sure anything can be altered, but every time you alter something it = takes both time and money. I no longer have either, so tend to keep it = simple and standard where possible. Welcome to the group, there are = many brilliant minds here with lots of experience and great advice. >>=20 >> Neil. >>=20 >> On 5/16/2019 2:34 PM, Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com = wrote: >>=20 >> Dave - thank you i feel sometimes a bit " isolated " here in South = Africa in the experimental builders class. Has also joinned the EAA in = USA to "stay on par" with the new technologies in the experimental = class. >> I have allready converted my 13B turbo model to a p port 44 mm inside = diameter. >> Regarding the slidethrottle and intakes i think i must go with a = plugs up mount with a downdraft holley and leaning block. >> Or if somebody on the group can helped me on the "plugs up topic." = Has not scroll all the threads on the group yet - forgive me if it was = an old topic. >> Here in South Africa some of the websites are blocked by servers and = can't get hold off more info. >> I saw that David Gray bought Ed's bird ,saw a article years ago about = his plugs up mount, is it still relevant? Seems much more practical for = the exaust outlet and the correct intake runner length. >>=20 >> Le Roux Breytenbach >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >>=20 >> On 15 May 2019, at 21:28, David Leonard wdleonard@gmail.com = wrote: >>=20 >> Glad to have you on board. I think the rotary is a great choice for = a Vision. >>=20 >> Dave Leonard >>=20 >> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 9:22 AM Le Roux Breytenbach = breytenbachleroux@gmail.com wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hi i am a new member on the group.I am from South Africa and busy = building a Vision Ex composite aircraft. >>> The 13B Mazda is my engine of choice and sure that will find more = info on the mailing group. >>>=20 >>> Le Roux Breytenbach >>> ZA >>>=20 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html