X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=NoyvjPVJ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=bITFefrx8MEES/AdMiujTg==:117 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=oSMvVwY2MYMA:10 a=oexKYjalfGEA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=eRLigfuSAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=piPIngqkyDWk1IXYfs8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=JA6gMW4Q1CV2LrpM9KcA:9 a=aW7yj5Eclp9SS1Cs:21 a=5YQ6H4ZxyGn-KoBYtt8s:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=BfhXYjFvZD4iae-mNffo:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "David Leonard wdleonard@gmail.com" Received: from mail-qt1-f180.google.com ([209.85.160.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.12) with ESMTPS id 12488089 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 22 Apr 2019 11:07:36 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.160.180; envelope-from=wdleonard@gmail.com Received: by mail-qt1-f180.google.com with SMTP id g7so4980368qtc.0 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2019 08:07:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Zcf+QuVDbxvs9S3IG/UnRJN/xUZpkjw47IK7vSDiamE=; b=MOAOWa6QWOAXhh4UQMa/4iRivUDL1HFd9PO6wKTVNF8OEcWgRMJ+gTHJp7eLv7LSEb gCNi0epudeC6ETu+HvviLw5uw9XgAo2p406TeFUz2oDi8xBk1dCJiyyizBgN0JNUGWjo 5XrZ5aLre0rDZ7qEyyttJSjGgq88Vz0cjjEQfgsQJpBsiTS9Hm9ZiYBvun8c6owXcACO rA4L86ZWe51RgNhg2R94RgPohyf3B0opuO2PyWNs0g5XcwZEl7rSuxQLSkkbcnEyFpx6 6y8UbLvmyfasDyGUdIU7X70NCja33zWmy1E8++Ce5jsWVT0ZOvTs1blFUOZQ8psBoji5 SRRg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Zcf+QuVDbxvs9S3IG/UnRJN/xUZpkjw47IK7vSDiamE=; b=c4CR2lFGT0ApeiTYJWokcz1jomlsq5wCL4Gtvwbu2v3m5lTVT3d++H/34B1ligXWFr 3wHtCckjYjs883rUMBbkGvC39hx3Knr90aeXsVPeZpzopsBGT0mkEecZ1ptxvcV+ELv7 QToCoMDSHutLEIKnadOu8rIgyOK0I3MI2wCNmqBL7ODRSFXVtJWC4r1NLJ1HoDFt5fHn 3VUcvz5LQ5yCwxC3Q3MwvHflTlqgCV5mRIeg35qrxw7ZPGPI5E22ERs/Yy+UNPkLUoSQ yff1mInPyHvwcs3qSv++1zsVnfJQ4j3W7/fyEGKVLTxlrVc1n+zDf0KKv442g/apRFEA goEA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWYT7+AcwR80sAKZ3mEaZOByDf5KswXVFm/07gK2e82dEd99pK5 QjMV0gtXH7xSaU1ZLyi7IeaIWp32aWqnPpUWzHqjdg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxxRNl6TZ8qEDUUQgORSK/1IUrN5M6EV9I4gi8gGpoaTW1LMnqVklJA35XR65u6CPOmzSrG38fKtUI1q4x57QE= X-Received: by 2002:aed:22c5:: with SMTP id q5mr16313259qtc.386.1555945637511; Mon, 22 Apr 2019 08:07:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 08:07:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: transition from project to plane. To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000003883605871fd34d" --00000000000003883605871fd34d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Exaxtly what I was thinking Finn. I found the transition phase to be very jam packed. Exploring the full flight envelope, calibration of AOA sensors and the pitot static system took a while. Then I taught myself aerobatics while I went through every meneuver including spins and snap rolls. I did plenty of touch and gos to explore wheels vs 3-point landings including in cross winds. I did low and slow, and high and fast. Fixed lots of problems and bought lots of gas. So my first 40 hours (or even my first few hundered) were not a problem for me. After that, I got into formation flying which added a whole new level of motivation, challenge, and companionship. Also consider young eagles, airplane camping, aerobatics competitions and races. And there is ALWAYS something to work on. If you run out, I got plenty of projects I would be willing to share ;-) Dave Leonard On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 6:30 AM Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Have you really done everything you need to do in Phase I? > A full flight testing program. > Expanded and documented the envelope? > All allowed maneuvers, stalls, spins, rools, loops ..., at which W&B? > Do you really have all the the numbers to make a complete POH? > Stall speeds clean and dirty at all W&B configurations? > Range (fuel burn) at all configurations? > And so on. > 40 hours go quick that way. > > THAT is what Phase I is for. > > And how can you consider the build complete without all that? > > Hope that helps. > > Finn > > On 4/22/2019 2:56 AM, Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au wrote: > > Just wondering, If anyone else had trouble with the transition phase > > from building to flying? I just can't seem to get my headspace right > > to enjoy it. > > I have flown the plane quite a few times over the last couple of > > years, each time having to fix issues that arose, so technically I was > > still in the building phase. > > Seems now, that no major changes are needed, I'm having trouble > > getting enthusiasm to fly it, even on perfect flying days like today, > > and the days are counting down to finish my phase 1. > > Its not the flying or the airplane/engine that worries me, I just seem > > to really miss having to work on it. > > cheers, Andrew > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --00000000000003883605871fd34d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Exaxtly what I was thinking Finn.=C2=A0 I found the trans= ition phase to be very jam packed.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Exploring the full flight en= velope, calibration of AOA sensors and the pitot static system took a while= .=C2=A0 Then I taught myself aerobatics while I went through every meneuver= including spins and snap rolls.=C2=A0 I did plenty of touch and gos to exp= lore wheels vs 3-point landings including in cross winds.=C2=A0 I did low a= nd slow, and high and fast.=C2=A0 Fixed lots of problems and bought lots of= gas.

So my first 40 hours (or= even my first few hundered) were not a problem for me.

After that, I got into formation flying whi= ch added a whole new level of motivation, challenge, and companionship.=C2= =A0=C2=A0

Also consider = young eagles, airplane camping, aerobatics competitions and races.=C2=A0=C2= =A0

And there is ALWAYS = something to work on.=C2=A0 If you run out, I got plenty of projects I woul= d be willing to share=C2=A0 ;-)

Dave Leonard

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 6:30 AM Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net= > wrote:
Have you really done ev= erything you need to do in Phase I?
A full flight testing program.
Expanded and documented the envelope?
All allowed maneuvers, stalls, spins, rools, loops ..., at which W&B? Do you really have all the the numbers to make a complete POH?
Stall speeds clean and dirty at all W&B configurations?
Range (fuel burn) at all configurations?
And so on.
40 hours go quick that way.

THAT is what Phase I is for.

And how can you consider the build complete without all that?

Hope that helps.

Finn

On 4/22/2019 2:56 AM, Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au wrote: > Just wondering, If anyone else had trouble with the transition phase <= br> > from building to flying? I just can't seem to get my headspace rig= ht
> to enjoy it.
> I have flown the plane quite a few times over the last couple of
> years, each time having to fix issues that arose, so technically I was=
> still in the building phase.
> Seems now, that no major changes are needed, I'm having trouble > getting enthusiasm to fly it, even on perfect flying days like today,= =C2=A0
> and the days are counting down to finish my phase 1.
> Its not the flying or the airplane/engine that worries me, I just seem=
> to really miss having to work on it.
> cheers, Andrew
>
>
>
>


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