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Roy, What other forums are u on? I'm on several as well as Facebook. I think those are our options to exchange private info. I'm working today so I'll check back on here later this evening. Thanks! Tom Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2017, at 9:16 AM, "Roy Glenn" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Tom I am interested .,How do i contact you??? Roy rglenn14@sbcglobal.net -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 6/18/17, Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@logan.com> wrote: Subject: Undeliverable mail: Re: flyrotary Digest #4450 To: rglenn14@sbcglobal.net Date: Sunday, June 18, 2017, 7:47 AM Failed to deliver to 'flyrotary@lancaironline.net' LIST module(list flyrotary@lancaironline.net) reports: You should not reply on digest messages without changing the Subject field in contact with Tom Gillespie about the engine he has for sale -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 6/17/17, Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Subject: flyrotary Digest #4450 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> Date: Saturday, June 17, 2017, 5:01 AM From: "Ed Anderson" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> Message-ID: <AE129F3D2FFB4599A5F34F68FDAF545B@EdPC> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel filter Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 08:55:25 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Finn, Since you appear to be uncomfortable with barb fittings, here are the ones I used for over 10 years that have a screwed on fitting, never had any problems. Replaced them ever 2 years, cut them open and could never detect any trash in fuel system. I started with an AC GF-481 which became hard to find and then switched to a more readily accessable NAPA filter the GF652 NAPA FIL-3481. They do require the Saginaw fitting and an "O" ring. Fuel Filters: OEM Auto Fuel Injector Fuel Filters (Two in Parallel) Type: AC GF - 481 Pkg: 25056052 OEM:25055129 (or equivalent) Replaced by GF652, NAPA FIL -3481 Fittings: 3/8 Saginaw to AN6 Adapter, “O” ring required Best Regards Ed -----Original Message----- From: Charlie England Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:29 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel filter On 6/15/2017 7:45 PM, Finn Lassen wrote: Still haven't found a EFI filter with hose barbs I'm comfortable with. Some specs says paper filter, some puts the limit at 45 psi. Can anybody recommend a filter to insert between output of HFI pumps and fuel rails? Finn -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html Have you searched for an inline fuel injection filter with NPT threads? You can use NPT to hose barb adapters. Summit has one that looks like the NAPA all metal filter several builders have used. It doesn't list filter media or max psi on the site, but it might be worth a look. Charlie --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html Rotary motors in aircraft Digest #4450 1) Re: Fuel filter by Ed Anderson 2) Re: Fuel filter by Finn Lassen 3) Re: Fuel filter by flyrotary 4) Re: ceramic coating by Ernest Christley 5) Re: ceramic coating by William Jepson 6) Re: Jet-Hot Ceramic Coating by Doug Lomheim 7) Re: Jet-Hot Ceramic Coating by A R Goldman 8) Re: ceramic coating by Todd Bartrim 9) Re: Jet-Hot Ceramic Coating by Todd Bartrim This digest is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <flyrotary-off@lancaironline.net> To switch to the FEED mode, E-mail to <flyrotary-feed@lancaironline.net> Send administrative queries to <flyrotary-request@lancaironline.net> From: "Finn Lassen" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel filter Message-ID: <678fac63-b136-95f1-b3fd-7640f095d843@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 10:26:17 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Ed, I'm not uncomfortable with hose barbs as such. All fuel lines forward of firewall are Aeoquip "hose barbs". Considering inside area of 3/8" hose (0.11 sq in) and 80 psi (more than twice my normal operating pressure) and how hard it is to press on the hose onto the fittings, a 9 pound pressure trying to press off the hose seems minor. I'm more concerned with the quality of the filter (can) itself. With all the high pressure car EFIs out there it should be possible to find a filter with hose barbs -- but maybe not the quality of the Aeroquip ones. Finn On 6/16/2017 8:55 AM, Ed Anderson wrote: Hi Finn, Since you appear to be uncomfortable with barb fittings, here are the ones I used for over 10 years that have a screwed on fitting, never had any problems. Replaced them ever 2 years, cut them open and could never detect any trash in fuel system. I started with an AC GF-481 which became hard to find and then switched to a more readily accessable NAPA filter the GF652 NAPA FIL-3481. They do require the Saginaw fitting and an "O" ring. Fuel Filters: OEM Auto Fuel Injector Fuel Filters (Two in Parallel) Type: AC GF - 481 Pkg: 25056052 OEM:25055129 (or equivalent) Replaced by GF652, NAPA FIL -3481 Fittings: 3/8 Saginaw to AN6 Adapter, “O” ring required Best Regards Ed -----Original Message----- From: Charlie England Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:29 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel filter On 6/15/2017 7:45 PM, Finn Lassen wrote: Still haven't found a EFI filter with hose barbs I'm comfortable with. Some specs says paper filter, some puts the limit at 45 psi. Can anybody recommend a filter to insert between output of HFI pumps and fuel rails? Finn -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html Have you searched for an inline fuel injection filter with NPT threads? You can use NPT to hose barb adapters. Summit has one that looks like the NAPA all metal filter several builders have used. It doesn't list filter media or max psi on the site, but it might be worth a look. Charlie --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html From: "flyrotary" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> Message-ID: <1945d9.7d7e88f.46754b29@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 10:54:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel filter Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1945d9.7d7e88f.46754b29_boundary" --part1_1945d9.7d7e88f.46754b29_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en The micron rating of the last chance filter would be the same as in the ca= r=20 the injector came from or was used in. Find a filter with that micron=20 rating (the one from the car) and cut it open. Lay out the paper or wire= media=20 and measure the square inches. Double that number and buy a filter(s) tha= t=20 have that numberof square inches of media and AN fitting capability. =20 There is no application for hose barb fittings on an airplane or a race= =20 car. Change the filters at annual. Sintered bronze elements can be plugged solid by a dose of water. I would= =20 not use them. This is race car stuff. My BD-4 hangs from the ceiling =20 unfinished.=20 Lynn E. Hanover =20 In a message dated 6/16/2017 8:55:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, =20 flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: =20 Hi Finn, Since you appear to be uncomfortable with barb fittings, here are the one= s=20 I=20 used for over 10 years that have a screwed on fitting, never had any=20 problems. Replaced them ever 2 years, cut them open and could never=20 detect=20 any trash in fuel system. I started with an AC GF-481 which became hard= =20 to=20 find and then switched to a more readily accessible NAPA filter the GF652= =20 NAPA FIL-3481. They do require the Saginaw fitting and an "O" ring. Fuel Filters: OEM Auto Fuel Injector Fuel Filters (Two in Parallel) Type: AC GF - 481 Pkg: 25056052 OEM:25055129 (or equivalent) Replaced by GF652, NAPA FIL -3481 Fittings: 3/8 Saginaw to AN6 Adapter, =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D ring re= quired Best Regards Ed -----Original Message-----=20 From: Charlie England Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:29 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel filter On 6/15/2017 7:45 PM, Finn Lassen wrote: Still haven't found a EFI filter with hose barbs I'm comfortable with. Some specs says paper filter, some puts the limit at 45 psi. Can anybody recommend a filter to insert between output of HFI pumps an= d=20 fuel rails? Finn --=20 Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub:=20 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html Have you searched for an inline fuel injection filter with NPT threads? You can use NPT to hose barb adapters. Summit has one that looks like the NAPA all metal filter several builders have used. It doesn't list filter media or max psi on the site, but it might be worth a look. Charlie --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: =20 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html =20 -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: =20 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html --part1_1945d9.7d7e88f.46754b29_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-8" http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 11.00.9600.18698"></HEAD> <BODY id=3Drole_body style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR:= #000000"=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Dr= ole_document=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial> <DIV>The micron rating of the last chance filter would be the same as in= the car=20 the injector came from or was used in. Find a filter with that micron rati= ng=20 (the one from the car) and cut it open. Lay out the paper or wire media an= d=20 measure the square inches. Double that number and buy a filter(s) that hav= e that=20 numberof square inches of media and AN fitting capability.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> There is no application for hose barb fittings on an airplane= or a=20 race car. Change the filters at annual.</DIV> <DIV>Sintered bronze elements can be plugged solid by a dose of water. I= would=20 not use them.  This is race car stuff. My BD-4 hangs from the ceiling= =20 unfinished. </DIV> <DIV>Lynn E. Hanover</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 6/16/2017 8:55:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:</DIV> <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"= <FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3D= Arial>Hi=20 Finn,<BR><BR>Since you appear to be uncomfortable with barb fittings, he= re are=20 the ones I <BR>used for over 10 years that have a screwed on fitting, ne= ver=20 had any <BR>problems.  Replaced them ever 2 years, cut them open an= d=20 could never detect <BR>any trash in fuel system.  I started with an= AC=20 GF-481 which became hard to <BR>find and then switched to a more readily= =20 accessible NAPA filter the GF652 <BR>NAPA FIL-3481.  They do requir= e the=20 Saginaw fitting and an "O" ring.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Fuel Filters:  &nbs= p;=20       OEM Auto Fuel Injector Fuel Filters (Two in=20 Parallel)<BR>Type:             AC GF= - 481=20 Pkg: 25056052 OEM:25055129 (or equivalent)<BR>      &nbsp= ;=20               Replaced by GF652, NAPA= FIL=20 -3481<BR>Fittings:         3/8 Saginaw to AN6= =20 Adapter, =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D ring required<BR><BR>Best=20 Regards<BR><BR>Ed<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Ch= arlie=20 England<BR>Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:29 PM<BR>To: Rotary motors= in=20 aircraft<BR>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel filter<BR><BR>On 6/15/2017 7:4= 5 PM,=20 Finn Lassen wrote:<BR>> Still haven't found a EFI filter with hose ba= rbs=20 I'm comfortable with.<BR>><BR>> Some specs says paper filter, some= puts=20 the limit at 45 psi.<BR>><BR>> Can anybody recommend a filter to= insert=20 between output of HFI pumps and <BR>> fuel rails?<BR>><BR>>=20 Finn<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> -- <BR>> Homepage: =20 http://www.flyrotary