X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "William Jepson" Received: from mail-ua0-f178.google.com ([209.85.217.178] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2c3) with ESMTPS id 9736798 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 09 May 2017 13:11:22 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.217.178; envelope-from=wrjjrs@gmail.com Received: by mail-ua0-f178.google.com with SMTP id e28so7518309uah.0 for ; Tue, 09 May 2017 10:11:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=1qzyhemEnEOUR2Q1riIuKY52HxOYPyJwJlK0Y3CbELw=; b=P2ghGXw2ICq1n/h+27HBwyj64gBtIQqH1aDThvdK2YLzif7vcG2tmCH+X60sG8E4nK OmkXJBSUVOTx+Z06IdHK+9hbJGeeDvWJOaBMIQJ0hOl1sYMBOAYJXxEt8iDWf25rUbwu /mUDDRRJyRJx/ycDVn5tvF/q9Nbns+lDhgrAqXRLCBfw1uIc9fJsQV3vilRAASyZS/Cz KoLv9FebR/8e/KmMenP7WxBiUWomoJIP5naRxf4tFEwNJb7AvEXt7nePcqhN1w4ACiQt D6HQUaVtdLEESFY2Shrowwl1qtvGOqskdvNWJhKPOUyomMIDcQ0oMWgJg4JmOpiR9DYU 1vTA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=1qzyhemEnEOUR2Q1riIuKY52HxOYPyJwJlK0Y3CbELw=; b=pPcz3RKxzj1ShKlV/Bi+sAogf/uOioIEfSIiq8i4HGugqMLyaezol/W9XoOslE3djp qrLTDeVzxWnfyMDKbHUcj83tP2bMsfLmq1so7DR4fy7bFT+QZBkTjaabR+SxlPVth//x FHMKtvCFfZAXsb4sPbBzjeVvHeBW6X4yj8Vsn1X/zhepHL73aevVp5vkY/N5JajTNpLl qCqvNthYkpM0SSrAwBFw5VopQWoQGuFITPYox4Hev5GbdNfoEdYytd74L/4X6rgwIlC4 6CeFrRlII49T418Dx4IWaknQaPja9d99+8moF3ulSRxTZXxvHLXwiJnnvLp/v0W0JO9u ihpA== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcBbdfMCSdvnPnrX6O6QHxEIXfGu3FeIdwF2lKBCBvv2AgjHqoYd MFP10pOctUu/Sunf6i10fzHTuSZvng== X-Received: by 10.176.92.103 with SMTP id a39mr618278uag.130.1494349864897; Tue, 09 May 2017 10:11:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.163.131 with HTTP; Tue, 9 May 2017 10:11:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 10:11:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: F/A and EGT data To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f403043eebd0de1382054f1a70a1 --f403043eebd0de1382054f1a70a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Bobby, I agree with Jeff. Since there are ALWAYS minor variances in the intake, porting, exhaust lengths, or even the actual bends of the exhaust it is unlikely that you will remain synced up across the range. I talked to Ross Farnham at SDSEFI and he commented that was why he put tune on the fly ability for individual cylinders / rotors into his EFI. Bill Jepson On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Jeff Whaley wrote: > From memory, reading the EC2 Manual it states that rotor balancing should > be performed at your preferred cruise rpm as it will remain balanced over a > very narrow range. I'm sure you know: Static and in-flight engine > performance will not be the same, regardless if the RPMs and MPs are > matched. > Jeff > > From: Bobby J. Hughes > Subject: F/A and EGT data > Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 10:12:07 -0500 > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > > I recently purchased a two channel portable wideband O2 system and > installed bungs and plugs on each exhaust runner. I also have a downstream > wideband that I have been using for several years. I was able to spend a > very productive hour ground tuning and adjusting Mode 4 injector balance > prior to my flight yesterday from Austin to Akron OH. I'm not sure what to > make of the F/A EGT spread data I collect during yesterday's flight. > > During the ground tuning session I balanced rotor 1 to match rotor 2 using > F/A ratios for takeoff condition. This produced very close EGT readings. > However at my preferred cruise settings I'm seeing a large EGT spread. I > would expect a consistent EGT ratio change when adjusting the mixture knob > at a steady rpm / MP. This appears not to be the case. What am I missing? > > Bobby Hughes > This message, and the documents attached hereto, is intended only for the > addressee and may contain privileged or confidential information. Any > unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > message in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our > internal records. Please then delete the original message. Thank you. > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net: > 81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --f403043eebd0de1382054f1a70a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bobby, I agree with Jeff. Since there are ALWAYS minor var= iances in the intake, porting, exhaust lengths, or even the actual bends of= the exhaust it is unlikely that you will remain synced up across the range= . I talked to Ross Farnham at SDSEFI and he commented that was why he put t= une on the fly ability for individual cylinders / rotors into his EFI.
= Bill Jepson

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Jeff Whaley <flyrotary@lan= caironline.net> wrote:
From= memory, reading the EC2 Manual it states that rotor balancing should be pe= rformed at your preferred cruise rpm as it will remain balanced over a very= narrow range. I'm sure you know: Static and in-flight engine performan= ce will not be the same, regardless if the RPMs and MPs are matched.
Jeff

From:=C2=A0 =C2=A0Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 F/A and EGT data
Date:=C2=A0 =C2=A0Tue, 9 May 2017 10:12:07 -0500
To:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

I recently purchased a two channel=C2=A0 portable wideband O2 system and in= stalled bungs and plugs on each exhaust runner. I also have a downstream wi= deband that I have been using for several years. I was able to spend a very= productive hour ground tuning and adjusting Mode 4 injector balance prior = to my flight yesterday from Austin to Akron OH. I'm not sure what to ma= ke of the F/A EGT spread data I collect during yesterday's flight.

During the ground tuning session I balanced rotor 1 to match rotor 2 using = F/A ratios for takeoff condition. This produced very close EGT readings. Ho= wever at my preferred cruise settings I'm seeing a large EGT spread. I = would expect a consistent EGT ratio change when adjusting the mixture knob = at a steady rpm / MP.=C2=A0 This appears not to be the case. What am I miss= ing?

Bobby Hughes
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