In a message dated 1/13/2017 9:09:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:

Looks to me like it's what I'd call 'barn door' track? Generally a= bit=20 more robust vs the residential garage door track. It's a well build look= ing=20 crane!

Fwiw

Jarrett

All grammar and spelling errors,=20 compliments of my iPhone

On Jan 13, 2017, at 07:58, Charlie England <flyrotary@lancaironline.net<= /A>>=20 wrote:

Nice. Got a closer image of the trusses & track? Mo= st=20 garage door track here in the USA is basically C channel (more of a no= tched=20 0) that's typically supported only on the ends.=20

Thanks,

Charlie

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 3:08 AM, Nigel Baker= <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

When=20 I built my workshop I knew I would need to lift stuff around and I= =E2=80=99m not=20 getting any younger and like to be=20 self-sufficient.

So=20 I guess you mean something like attached.

I=20 designed it for 250 KG which is plenty for my=20 activities.

I=20 used 250KG garage door track with good support for the=20 spans.

The=20 travelling beam spans 5.8 mts.

The=20 electric hoist (250KG) was AUD$104.00 including=20 postage.

All=20 up I spent about AUD$600.00 building it 4 years ago so not that=20 expensive.

Cheers.

Nige.

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Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] What I'd do differently... or the=20 same.

Yeah, this is a good topic because of that damn= =20 hindsight thing!

I already listed the one thing about the overhe= ad crane=20 or engine hoist, but on another more practical note. I got my airpla= ne in=20 the air in 3 years from knowing nothing about airplanes to choosing= a kit,=20 building (not a quickbuild), designing and building an alternative= engine=20 FWF to first flight, then learning to fly.

It was all great fun at home in my= shop=20 where I could work on it every spare minute. There was many very lat= e=20 nights where the creativity was coming fast and furious and lots of= times=20 I'd wake up in the middle of the night with a great idea and head to= the=20 shop.

Then I was in a hurry to move it= to the=20 airport. I hated working on it out there. I could go on with a long= list=20 of reasons why, but it was hard to continue experimenting with it ou= t=20 there and I started regretting doing some things that I was otherwis= e glad=20 that I tried. I tried to deny this to myself and stay excited and po= sitive=20 about it all.

By the time that I took it home= 2 years=20 later, I was not really interested in dealing with it. And since we= had=20 just bought the land across the road, I had a new shop to build, bar= ns to=20 build, a kid to raise and a thousand other distractions, so that it= took=20 till now to get interested again.

Fortunately, my wife only once mad= e=20 mention of selling it, but from my reaction never mentioned it again= , but=20 I can see how so many projects get abandoned at this=20 point.

So from that, what would I do differently= ? Hard=20 to be sure since I didn't have the flight experience to make some=20 different choices, but even an extra year in the shop going at a lit= tle=20 slower pace wouldn't have hurt. That old saying about if you don't= have=20 time to do it right the first time, then when are you going to find= time=20 to do it the second time, is even harder when you are no longer in= your=20 well equipped shop while doing it the second time. Now it's not like= the=20 workmanship is bad, when I say about doing it right, but rather if= some of=20 our design choices are constrained by the amount of work involved.= Now I=20 would rather do an almost unreasonable amount of work in the comfort= of my=20 shop than almost anything in the field. I really enjoy building at= home,=20 but when it's not at home I just want to fly it.

Previously I would cling to questi= onable=20 half-baked ideas because of the time and money that I'd invested in= it.=20 That's not to say that half-baked ideas are all bad, but now I'll be= far=20 more likely to move on and try something else regardless of time and= money=20 investment if I don't feel good about something.

So when you're considering somethi= ng like=20 relocating a cooler and are certain that it would improve performanc= e but=20 don't want to to do the work involved, just do it when you're still= in a=20 well equipped and convenient work space.

And all you lucky SOB's that have= an=20 airstrip and hangar at home, you can disregard this=20 advice.

I could fill several more posts about more spec= ific=20 items that I'd do differently but this was really the big picture an= d once=20 again it may seem obvious to many but that has been my=20 experience.

Todd Bartrim

RV9 13Bturbo

Ps. I often get asked about how many hours are= involved=20 in building this plane. I just laugh and say I don't know or care.= It=20 doesn't matter.

Ernest=20 Christley

7:35 AM=20 (7 hours ago)

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George= started=20 us on a good topic. Building an airplane is an expensive and= labor=20 intensive process. I've made many decisions where I didn't rea= lly=20 like something, but liked the prospect of the time and expense to ch= ange=20 it even less. Those things don't tend to get as much coverage= in=20 discussions as what was actually done, even though there is a real= lesson=20 in what the person who just did something wishes they'd done=20 differently.

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This thr= ead=20 could be renamed "What I'd done=20 differently"

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Another= good one=20 would be "What I'd do=20 again"
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