X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "steve Izett" Received: from mail-pa0-f51.google.com ([209.85.220.51] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.11) with ESMTPS id 8855179 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 20:21:15 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.220.51; envelope-from=steveize@gmail.com Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id pp5so102954350pac.3 for ; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 17:21:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=7blUE8DHrXN5djORQ5tEdJHHp5u0E4Fp5raa4y+ZV8E=; b=J8iMNYwhVP4g1WDvErhp9Qcam1vq5SbHGF2goZodtzssaCCykF28nOtEmClANuezAi QCkHLdr0nnIOGEL+vwH3TejQpEcGmEVgRlE5tjZ5iBT3dDefY+eKPfubjfpa5HgX4FgH IUBeTWWKo8wTl3nivnts8NILYj3I72qSRvkZJwHGbzTFYTcPWSXkYjvQX2Xb1YWLm5Jp zkCDEYMkc4cZm9uTbUPIsfgYenXzLaw5NT6Mhsig6kpMMk9/3SjyDoBYIvBXsV9gbF7P iNQfMGt46S8ZWbo7dI//N1vvJNRztaJh0HYdu4RZcGIvCcLQlHOU6X9L5CPrZWXlWI82 VmWg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=7blUE8DHrXN5djORQ5tEdJHHp5u0E4Fp5raa4y+ZV8E=; b=UNn5n5lhJ4G0FiwdX7/KuHUAImlhhoDjqz8MPxlhiXV3iBbIXejfGlqr79zRvv3pRo NUCwSd5MUyAOUG4h8zSFvIM6ewmPfBQ4x1gUXhtaxgtph0SjXxDZdeBFZEidr1skqz/B 7Osi8NTEqvAdgSBVTEUFYKRPPb+Uy9DGv3WSlo5YNzQoGeeewe0AJif2Yo6zMMLJcQem VPZJl+3qrUUE0m1Bsm+++gWXen0d/55CG3oMR7nO+Y8kQGoi5t6F9qkLfrznvLlppB8b qK984j6KMky+/CU8NYKexov+FkfQUFUQ4XeSTeTP5owNn1XWodQt3L0m+LmADF8QuKJE QMiA== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuKQ50gak5BAof3+RA8a8b4rq/uEm1m9Hof7r4lME/YfH+S9Q0Fl+X37F3m7hfj0A== X-Received: by 10.66.123.105 with SMTP id lz9mr109837226pab.56.1470529258207; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 17:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [10.1.1.5] (124-148-241-223.dyn.iinet.net.au. [124.148.241.223]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n9sm37725348paz.13.2016.08.06.17.20.56 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 06 Aug 2016 17:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Finding the gremlin In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 08:21:00 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Thanks Tracy The NOP indication is directly linked to RPM - about 6K (Dynon miss = reads at the same point). But no missing occurs at this point, engine = continues smooth. When the gremlin strikes (all hell breaks loose) it does appear clearly = related to load - just before 24=E2=80=9DHg. Ive never checked the timing with a light or whats in the EC2 (dumb), = just thought I'd zero=E2=80=99d all parameters in non volatile memory. I=E2=80=99m going past the hangar today so will fire her up and read the = static timing setting via the EM3. As far as Earths. I have a noisy one and a quiet one and one for the = gear pump. Each has 10 gauge wire 26 inches back to battery. Each Earth point is an AN bolt and nut clamping all those paticular = earths lugs either side of the 10 gauge earth lug. All lugs are = soldered. Power Busses are: Engine, Flight and Gear (30 amp pump) each fed by 10 = gauge wire 36 inches back to battery. In order to easily get to all electrical systems I opted for a two buss = blade fuse arrangement. (The gear power is a 30amp breaker) This does mean on the engine buss, EC2, EM3, Coils, Injectors, Pumps, = are fed from the same point via 10 gauge wire rather than the EC2 = independently back to to battery. Thanks Steve and Bobby I kept and ran the injector lines and coil trigger lines independently = seperate from each other and all other wires where possible. eg. Coils go to the right and through the firewall. Injectors to the = left and though the firewall. I do pull the throttle each time the gremlin strikes trying to minimise = damage to the drive line. Last night I had the thought of making a DB37 breakout so I can easily = get a CRO onto and monitor any input/outputs to the EC2.=20 I=E2=80=99ll do this before next Friday enabling testing of electrical = systems. I=E2=80=99ll check the CAS signal amplitude and check the injector = signals. I would like to get a video recorder, recording everything as I always = forget to check some parameter each time I=E2=80=99m testing. Steve > On 7 Aug 2016, at 4:12 AM, Tracy wrote: >=20 > Steve wrote: > "Note to Tracy. - Did you incorporate in your code any way of knowing = if the EC2 entered a watchdog routine?" >=20 > Sort of. That NOP you are seeing is a good indication that the ec2/3 = has been jolted out of its normal operating loop and is trying to = reboot. The backfiring is too. Electrical noise (probably in the = grounding scheme of electrical wiring layout) is the most likely = candidate. =20 >=20 > Tracy >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 >> On Aug 5, 2016, at 17:31, steve Izett = wrote: >>=20 >> Note to Tracy. - Did you incorporate in your code any way of knowing = if the EC2 entered a watchdog routine? >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html