X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Andrew Martin" Received: from mail-yw0-f178.google.com ([209.85.161.178] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.10) with ESMTPS id 8737651 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 23:46:23 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.161.178; envelope-from=andrew@martinag.com.au Received: by mail-yw0-f178.google.com with SMTP id g20so61515666ywb.0 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:46:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=martinag-com-au.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=nSycm4iDyvyoSh/C7HxUiqHIVDuqXws6qsykkiowvxw=; b=kfZJqCNwBo4gQF2WhfxIHvzql9lHHqaY9+KcK7+1z7ytvHPdf5wNwQGzr/yezMihyQ 8zT9uN7n+I3dr/bDgsQLnAOYFs85uBt2KBsU0G4sU2qDYzgTyHdFjVJohbf+WVrVwt6L MRxNxzE4zpknCE1P7wI9XqI2YRB1AZUviuAkU8Ir0+htU3ROtKfj2PMKkuCXqSIJkI4w nehKSGLdDfRmf9yPE34fKoTMsyr0aK3Y3Hs2wRlAPuBE8gwmDGIJ95TkzaXL5FQmOMYj d8Xh/Y0iEQQu+y6hOHM6bm2sYrntFf6jxDm3r/IGHB7Bq2ZkNUrVQeXCcfrPYedjYMdg JCKw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=nSycm4iDyvyoSh/C7HxUiqHIVDuqXws6qsykkiowvxw=; b=eEb260IJeF6OW2l4I8DIyREicvTwpHODKUAoaDhYwcUTgSP8yaUbuxI0sZAhM0XYqB nplPK+GWJHPYJr5G4RmoWzwnhEHtKfPK/gbRhTNjoj5UT3G6FPfmGj5TMY+jjgQaoqxf 1IIbaTk5o7y9a3DTOPNOrVR5St/w6ssjclV3x3u0k/mZpMgkHnFdVcKrZUC+VWK08V3T 6AyZqJZY8+YEKxxU20nCYkkOmzrATy9wI59AMUEebrIErUDYbZcxSmNVszBb4qrK07xj GqakFI5gbTlaadZ3kzxd13WQNpiJqTwEFR130WDENx5gJphBaxoFUQUbQC2rsVR/9ppo Ehxg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJwCytuIlHPksIN49Xjhvcz5N6aoabQciVMUxsEqpParg2wM9gtFolazF+EA6JPdroEumXGnmrqI3vaHA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.115.5 with SMTP id o5mr4436722ywc.311.1466135166241; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.83.13.3 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:46:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [202.40.0.40] Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:46:06 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: rebuild To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1149262ec7034d05357131ad --001a1149262ec7034d05357131ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Well, been about 10 days since I steam cleaned the engine during the first flight, due to work just managed to pull the engine apart, bit of fun for a novice, must say I was a bit apprehensive but now am wishing I had built it from scratch initially. for the life of me I cannot see anything obvious as being a problem so just going to get some o'rings and reassemble as per the manual. Now the whole problem was caused by the idiot operating it, I was so preoccupied trying to get oil cooling under control I had forgotten that I had the wrong coolant inlet hose on, I had done this on purpose during construction as it enables purging the air from the system without the multiple heat cycles saving time. the needed reinforced hose was still on the shelf. so there goes, I admit it. and to think Lynn has made comment about this in his posts recently, I can only kick myself. Nuff said. A few observations My plane flies beautifully. I'm really happy with it, it feels safe. The exit air openings on the top front of the cowl work (Peter Garrison/Mellmoth style). could quite easily see the low pressure area working above the cowl during the steam clean. coolant on the windscreen is an annoyance but no worse than flying in rain. Oil could be worse but a cessna with catastrophic oil leak puts it on the windscreen too. I saw the very first puff out of the cowl and was able to land within a couple of minutes with coolant remaining. steam exiting engine between rotor housing & rear end plate in region of spark plugs. once the engine cooled down refilled coolant, engine started & ran as normal just slow pressure leak. Oil cooler is 20b Cosmo, but is just not working good enough, think it is because it shares plenum with radiator and radiator possibly has less air flow restriction, don't know. will try again when motor is going then attack the cooling system. May even start from scratch if it tries to scare me again. Currently plenum opens just under the prop 28 sq" diffuses for 700mm/27.5" to 68 sq" turns about 80 deg up at the firewall base, is pinched to 59 sq" in the turn into a wedge duct on the back of the radiators which sit side by side. coolant radiator fin area is 450mm x 380mm x 60mm, oil 220mm x 290mm about same thickness but denser fins. air the exits on top front of cowl & 3 exits on bottom. I always presumed my cooling problems caused by the exits as I can run the engine all day at reasonable power on the ground with top cowl off. but obviously not at rpms capable of collapsing bottom hose Regards Andrew --001a1149262ec7034d05357131ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, been about 10 day= s since I steam cleaned the engine during the first flight, due to work jus= t managed to pull the engine apart, bit of fun for a novice, must say I was= a bit apprehensive but now am wishing I had built it from scratch initiall= y. for the life of me I cannot see anything obvious as being a problem so j= ust going to get some o'rings and reassemble as per the manual.

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Now the whole problem was caused by the idiot operating it, I was so = preoccupied trying to get oil cooling under control I had forgotten that I = had the wrong coolant inlet hose on, I had done this on purpose during cons= truction as it enables purging the air from the system without the multiple= heat cycles saving time. the needed reinforced hose was still on the shelf= . so there goes, I admit it. and to think Lynn has made comment about this = in his posts recently, I can only kick myself. Nuff said.

A fe= w observations
My plane flies beautifully. I'm really happy wi= th it, it feels safe.
The exit air openings on the top front of th= e cowl work (Peter Garrison/Mellmoth style). could quite easily see the low= pressure area working above the cowl during the steam clean. coolant on th= e windscreen is an annoyance but no worse than flying in rain. Oil could be= worse but a cessna with catastrophic oil leak puts it on the windscreen to= o. I saw the very first puff out of the cowl and was able to land within a = couple of minutes with coolant remaining. steam exiting engine between roto= r housing & rear end plate in region of spark plugs. once the engine co= oled down refilled coolant, engine started & ran as normal just slow pr= essure leak.

Oil cooler is 20b Cosmo, but is just not working= good enough, think it is because it shares plenum with radiator and radiat= or possibly has less air flow restriction, don't know. will try again w= hen motor is going then attack the cooling system. May even start from scra= tch if it tries to scare me again.

Currently plenum opens just= under the prop 28 sq" diffuses for 700mm/27.5" to 68 sq" tu= rns about 80 deg up at the firewall base, is pinched to 59 sq" in the = turn into a wedge duct on the back of the radiators which sit side by side.= coolant radiator fin area is 450mm x 380mm x 60mm, oil 220mm x 290mm about= same thickness but denser fins. air the exits on top front of cowl & 3= exits on bottom.

I always presumed my cooling problems cause= d by the exits as I can run the engine all day at reasonable power on the g= round with top cowl off. but obviously not at rpms capable of collapsing bo= ttom hose


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Regards

Andrew


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