Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #62552
From: Tracy <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:24:55 -0600
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
If builders at thinking about actually building the plenum style I made, I should add that there is a layer of fiberglass on both sides of the plywood to give it stiffness.  That is needed if you're going to make a plenum with flat sides.

I think I used a dowel between the flat sides too.

Tracy

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On Jun 14, 2016, at 20:45, Terry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Okay, I'll skip the aluminum, but....
Fiberglass....Carbon fiber......could be an alternative over plywood.  As a composite I can form a stronger cigar box at a fraction of the weight.

Terry Adams
N51079
KSCK

On 6/14/2016 2:15 PM, Charlie England wrote:
Tracy's is on the intake/exhaust side of the engine; the intake tubes are a straight shot from bellmouth to engine block. Everyone seems to go for the PL inspired 19" length tubes (or even longer, to find a spot on the plugs side of the engine for the plenum. I wonder if that's part of the reason (along with the drag of 'snake-y' tubes) that some aren't getting the HP they hoped for.

Note: If you build a 'cigar box' style plenum (air box) with flat sides, don't make my mistake. Tracy's box is made of plywood for a reason; I got creative & made mine using aluminum and Tracy pointed out that the pressure pulses will quickly shred it. Rebuilding my plenum is on my 'to do' list. I've got some 6" aluminum tubing that I may use, but the simplest thing is to just build it with plywood.

On 6/14/2016 1:38 PM, William Jepson wrote:
Something to remember an airbox like that must be on the "cold side" of the engine. Don't put it over the exhaust. 
Bill

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Luciano, Luis I CIV PEOSUB, PMS404P <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Hahaha... I always heard of Tracy's simple intake manifold but never had seen the actual setup (except for zoomed out shots in Contact mag).  Now I feel better as I move forward with my build :)  Thanks for sharing Charlie!!!

Luis

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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:27 PM
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Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral

On 6/14/2016 9:52 AM, Tom Mann wrote:
> Any Idea as to where one might find this information?
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Charlie England
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:43 AM
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral
>
> It's not that hard to make an intake that will make great power. Look
> at Tracy's setup. Might not be aesthetically beautiful to some eyes,
> but to me, function is beauty. I don't know of any N/A 2 rotor that's
> as fast as his -4, or as efficient at lower speeds. And really simple to make.
>
> Charlie

Hope Tracy doesn't mind; here's a shot of the Renesis manifold. I believe that the tubes inside the 'box' were later extended to be near the opposite wall. IIRC, Tracy said that the tubes are ~11" from the face of the block to the end of the bellmouth.

You can see old versions of the RWS website by using the Wayback Machine & picking a date.

Charlie



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