X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "William Jepson" Received: from mail-vk0-f53.google.com ([209.85.213.53] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.10) with ESMTPS id 8730904 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:31:38 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.213.53; envelope-from=wrjjrs@gmail.com Received: by mail-vk0-f53.google.com with SMTP id t129so2473877vka.1 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:31:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=Er+jvDZEAgYrzu6edQaZs1O2hW0EJHQM/CK1uk3HOKE=; b=A5JfxaHU70istNZJUC5FTh9up68U4tO1McLHSlDiI9CrNND18wHmEXQ7FYQFpb1WAb yOvl+hfeDiiXM7WBZLI2pSUtB1mllYe88nElJgR4Wo+PD8tUKjRq5vY3rAH/DD5RZdsr tIGHcJbvvOdIHR4JyBxaDhNnfnBAmWJyRzD2ciKBlLdVXUhGFhfc9ztW4jihSIwU/RgD tcg4XstXDAa1/1riZRGR+9WCdcKpMSLcKvKg+z2TlAYq/6lJWuRSN1mHzU8USNDQ147x bSvlvVGc8/x6JTyssagCVRbX7HESLlxyLLQV1chvAD6oqtMfjiX7MfdVJJIPOdkA0kw+ J/pQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=Er+jvDZEAgYrzu6edQaZs1O2hW0EJHQM/CK1uk3HOKE=; b=hSDcoI/Gjy92mGj3RgJ3IlXvrBRwZH6Pa7z5K08z2KdTIaqkn7sJX4VHwo1Hq6hreR E0L93UfNj8rq1cN79pJDcj5mFrEGqb3M0/bWJnpusLv5k8ux9V2Ywput6ZP6wjk5rQ7e i/42yLEqsyzDJY35IMC8cuo5zFZQAJd+HNbiwChIYOI8NMVHh6/klzOMe9IFjJJGyr9h KlRlWMw83XFCtC912GfKYMQFAdpZsax0xKW/KYf3m2AijZ8js54vqHar8JQDuG1xqwa3 5jp359AvLafu9RvAtN+n9mzHh8KWFKJvu29Hfcg3i74SHQcJkoibs3OVN39jpOWMwMV1 6UKg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tItWMHP0JFEfEMiAikKT8RJlLkdzPFc2klRalWYIdXlfNwVMoyOqLRdfHApg+tdZoAdklpQacFyjxVfHw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.167.84 with SMTP id q81mr10155843vke.51.1465936279762; Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.9.69 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.9.69 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:31:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:31:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11415d60380128053542e3e0 --001a11415d60380128053542e3e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable James, you are correct. Since Tracy hadn't caught fire yet, he must have the exhaust well insulated. Bill Jepson On Jun 14, 2016 1:28 PM, "James R. Osborn" wrote: > A sane observation, but since exhaust and intake are on the same side, it > appears Tracy=E2=80=99s plywood box IS over the exhaust. I assume he use= d heat > shields to deal with that? > > =E2=80=94 James > > > On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:38 AM, William Jepson > wrote: > > Something to remember an airbox like that must be on the "cold side" of > the engine. Don't put it over the exhaust. > Bill > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Luciano, Luis I CIV PEOSUB, PMS404P < > flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > >> Hahaha... I always heard of Tracy's simple intake manifold but never had >> seen the actual setup (except for zoomed out shots in Contact mag). Now= I >> feel better as I move forward with my build :) Thanks for sharing >> Charlie!!! >> >> Luis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:27 PM >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral >> >> On 6/14/2016 9:52 AM, Tom Mann wrote: >> > Any Idea as to where one might find this information? >> > >> > -----Original Message----- From: Charlie England >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:43 AM >> > To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral >> > >> > It's not that hard to make an intake that will make great power. Look >> > at Tracy's setup. Might not be aesthetically beautiful to some eyes, >> > but to me, function is beauty. I don't know of any N/A 2 rotor that's >> > as fast as his -4, or as efficient at lower speeds. And really simple >> to make. >> > >> > Charlie >> >> Hope Tracy doesn't mind; here's a shot of the Renesis manifold. I believ= e >> that the tubes inside the 'box' were later extended to be near the oppos= ite >> wall. IIRC, Tracy said that the tubes are ~11" from the face of the bloc= k >> to the end of the bellmouth. >> >> You can see old versions of the RWS website by using the Wayback Machine >> & picking a date. >> >> Charlie >> > > > --001a11415d60380128053542e3e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

James, you are correct. Since Tracy hadn't caught fire y= et, he must have the exhaust well insulated.

Bill Jepson

On Jun 14, 2016 1:28 PM, "James R. Osborn&q= uot; <flyrotary@lancairon= line.net> wrote:
A sane observation, but since exhau= st and intake are on the same side, it appears Tracy=E2=80=99s plywood box = IS over the exhaust.=C2=A0 I assume he used heat shields to deal with that?=

=E2=80=94 James


On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:38 AM, Willi= am Jepson <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Something to remember an airbox like that must be on the "cold side= " of the engine. Don't put it over the exhaust.=C2=A0
Bill

On Tue, J= un 14, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Luciano, Luis I CIV PEOSUB, PMS404P <fl= yrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Hahaha... I always heard of Tracy's simple intake manifold but n= ever had seen the actual setup (except for zoomed out shots in Contact mag)= .=C2=A0 Now I feel better as I move forward with my build :)=C2=A0 Thanks f= or sharing Charlie!!!

Luis

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:27 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral

On 6/14/2016 9:52 AM, Tom Mann wrote:
> Any Idea as to where one might find this information?
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Charlie England
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:43 AM
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral
>
> It's not that hard to make an intake that will make great power. L= ook
> at Tracy's setup. Might not be aesthetically beautiful to some eye= s,
> but to me, function is beauty. I don't know of any N/A 2 rotor tha= t's
> as fast as his -4, or as efficient at lower speeds. And really simple = to make.
>
> Charlie

Hope Tracy doesn't mind; here's a shot of the Renesis manifold. I b= elieve that the tubes inside the 'box' were later extended to be ne= ar the opposite wall. IIRC, Tracy said that the tubes are ~11" from th= e face of the block to the end of the bellmouth.

You can see old versions of the RWS website by using the Wayback Machine &a= mp; picking a date.

Charlie


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