X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "James R. Osborn" Received: from mail-pf0-f172.google.com ([209.85.192.172] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.10) with ESMTPS id 8730802 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:08:35 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.192.172; envelope-from=rxcited@gmail.com Received: by mail-pf0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 62so315667pfd.1 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:08:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to; bh=M3vRJXBVHz06UxTKei+ZubLUVaWFN95CViLt8cpfBFI=; b=YMDr/HkKMCY18WsHSrj/YEWpJtm1OnKdRbUXAYNzTDR52pRbjScHXKdbGUj0usPr8x fDpgdv3vzmnjKRzDzztIhfw63uMpLwNjwnCITLtL5TTwHDrIJgbOLaj+ctuDjghXXoxs 4QuqrC7pIm6s9T/0ST2vqYNbtr/4aQddr5WV1BW9EJijpyR8IUBOkwtasSzlnq1JnvVH 7qNEK0o6dQkrvjcdRdhQE0R42jX77kK4RqhrQli8F69tTiUiIheMSBmMxIy8FEMiimDr Nl0wJ2tD4GxMc91Ab33FFoNAkSYVRmSo1TJ8T6lBFrdOvuaBfO3BNZ8FICOlw5s+pJoQ E0EA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :references:to:in-reply-to; bh=M3vRJXBVHz06UxTKei+ZubLUVaWFN95CViLt8cpfBFI=; b=mP8LQ68+zPZ/4ZeVQnLaVVphUbvSC0kzNx+J80DrUCYrAKZImn2DB5YW0ljqmT1vSr HkwnyKGMV9TahgCehy9eUZbW+eLQkiT1eHc+HQHUy3XzgKKLrgrJaagj7S0dhIu8f/ll LhpNI0MakhdlpsEh7gYsIlhBsEd1JE/0jEbemixz1VtD6nAwNdYjZ6n13Kc8Ul0IXIoa gUdY5q1cevQy2Zcm+Ploo5+hInNKDH//QmiIJAsoXqWsiMi2a95LMsmLw0jaHutwwBjn 0O6oQ4UHw/AxqOy2LbsHowDJZBTJZZHgA57+HZg0s8oaA2B14NARtIUgAYNxmXivBoOZ SJJw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKnq4XFUbUjv8kDs3tvCZjdG5eYcOZXN+gyEIgrBXce5pJvi9+Bp0+a3Ab4b5+5Ng== X-Received: by 10.98.80.134 with SMTP id g6mr5571292pfj.60.1465934887978; Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from jrosborn-m76.lbl.gov (jrosborn-m76.lbl.gov. [128.3.128.169]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r143sm95800pfr.48.2016.06.14.13.08.07 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8BB061CE-67C9-4243-8AA6-BABC3417334D" Message-Id: <2C6E5CA0-DB7D-46E7-AF85-1A6851F90694@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:08:23 -0700 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) --Apple-Mail=_8BB061CE-67C9-4243-8AA6-BABC3417334D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 A sane observation, but since exhaust and intake are on the same side, = it appears Tracy=E2=80=99s plywood box IS over the exhaust. I assume he = used heat shields to deal with that? =E2=80=94 James > On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:38 AM, William Jepson = wrote: >=20 > Something to remember an airbox like that must be on the "cold side" = of the engine. Don't put it over the exhaust.=20 > Bill >=20 > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Luciano, Luis I CIV PEOSUB, PMS404P = > = wrote: > Hahaha... I always heard of Tracy's simple intake manifold but never = had seen the actual setup (except for zoomed out shots in Contact mag). = Now I feel better as I move forward with my build :) Thanks for sharing = Charlie!!! >=20 > Luis >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net = ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:27 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral >=20 > On 6/14/2016 9:52 AM, Tom Mann wrote: > > Any Idea as to where one might find this information? > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Charlie England > > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:43 AM > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral > > > > It's not that hard to make an intake that will make great power. = Look > > at Tracy's setup. Might not be aesthetically beautiful to some eyes, > > but to me, function is beauty. I don't know of any N/A 2 rotor = that's > > as fast as his -4, or as efficient at lower speeds. And really = simple to make. > > > > Charlie >=20 > Hope Tracy doesn't mind; here's a shot of the Renesis manifold. I = believe that the tubes inside the 'box' were later extended to be near = the opposite wall. IIRC, Tracy said that the tubes are ~11" from the = face of the block to the end of the bellmouth. >=20 > You can see old versions of the RWS website by using the Wayback = Machine & picking a date. >=20 > Charlie >=20 --Apple-Mail=_8BB061CE-67C9-4243-8AA6-BABC3417334D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 A sane observation, but since exhaust and intake are on the = same side, it appears Tracy=E2=80=99s plywood box IS over the exhaust. =  I assume he used heat shields to deal with that?

=E2=80=94= James

On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:38 AM, William Jepson <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Something to remember an airbox like that must be on the = "cold side" of the engine. Don't put it over the exhaust. 
Bill

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Luciano, Luis I = CIV PEOSUB, PMS404P <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Hahaha... I always = heard of Tracy's simple intake manifold but never had seen the actual = setup (except for zoomed out shots in Contact mag).  Now I feel = better as I move forward with my build :)  Thanks for sharing = Charlie!!!

Luis

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:27 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral

On 6/14/2016 9:52 AM, Tom Mann wrote:
> Any Idea as to where one might find this information?
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Charlie England
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:43 AM
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral
>
> It's not that hard to make an intake that will make great power. = Look
> at Tracy's setup. Might not be aesthetically beautiful to some = eyes,
> but to me, function is beauty. I don't know of any N/A 2 rotor = that's
> as fast as his -4, or as efficient at lower speeds. And really = simple to make.
>
> Charlie

Hope Tracy doesn't mind; here's a shot of the Renesis manifold. I = believe that the tubes inside the 'box' were later extended to be near = the opposite wall. IIRC, Tracy said that the tubes are ~11" from the = face of the block to the end of the bellmouth.

You can see old versions of the RWS website by using the Wayback Machine = & picking a date.

Charlie


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