X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "William Jepson" Received: from mail-vk0-f46.google.com ([209.85.213.46] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.9) with ESMTPS id 8572129 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 20:10:17 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.213.46; envelope-from=wrjjrs@gmail.com Received: by mail-vk0-f46.google.com with SMTP id k1so47852784vkb.0 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 17:10:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=tf6bUQ9M/teoF6kCyww6Jf5uckEmoNHd2jBewUUpBCQ=; b=SK8tIDXi3P3YbWycjIGUJscN8nnBvW7VF/n84EHiFyR8vrPgP3Hlg9KwbNVLYsOW7D p8C1gPjpPrvHzCrvA1E3+30a+/EjLP9uVnv23BcnFAjfK2iUfZOGZWeiEJ20NmTmqoUn oNV/2yoURbxZVn2viqooutQc25OBbVsxC73Vo0uHsu1kpQGN7d2FYgKTe70IP5Q/D9a6 YJ8eTcS7Kvfi6nTlwjU9k2GVMOY8JbItz818qSPp+WGd5HegCzFEwJCQbjVShfdBYYXy bTEek0SFYDBvN9ggUvKyQrAJV8ITGM5QJ9iiGvBXqPnDLA0lcerKtIldm9JozkIu6RJU AhVg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=tf6bUQ9M/teoF6kCyww6Jf5uckEmoNHd2jBewUUpBCQ=; b=lF/JjpfLNCO3RKXXU0byciu4P/GKzMvfpzLMusZjyWjKN9086PSOBaEIH+hRtVv1Pc YZZc+QriQcOXBN3OicxlPd98Yog1d1FXIw6vDdTpdOzljrgoY5wQuParCNxQuFt4hNZ5 8sKYSf9oaC77v2kmFi87Azasewj1xSRtTiGW1+ov9Nmyr1j8ApLOOqKIAc+TuivlqmAX Li148z+T4CoXjPEOqT0IVWAgIcQ/qR54/xPJlQcCsAsePfR43t+YdW+QQm4QNyddqwhO d2tjLmor325i58b0Ey+Xkz0P3QY7bHMFKrvgiz9/AORCd9m3n/bi4xLsfldb9ysNtumB FShw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FUlqo55aBtJ2nKenXOQm4Gs5uMy8vWWx8EqIc6W/ve/wQ66GK+yz8k3d1rHOMCJSBAUI8XavN0Lay2nsg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.162.20 with SMTP id l20mr2809254vke.137.1460506198975; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 17:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.31.21 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 17:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.31.21 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 17:09:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 17:09:58 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Welding Update To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1143f2ac2eaa9b0530529935 --001a1143f2ac2eaa9b0530529935 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Dave, The tig is great. One thing to remember is to anneal the area around welds whenever possible. Tig allows you to weld many metals but annealing prevents cracking right next to the weld later. If it is a motor mount it is a good idea to shot peen as well. Bill Jepson On Apr 12, 2016 5:02 PM, "David Leonard" wrote: > Charlie, > Your post below reminded me that I wanted to thank everyone who suggested > I get a TIG system rather than some other form of welding set-up. After > getting up to speed on the benefits of the different types of welding, it > is clear that TIG was the only solution for my needs (most versatile and > most appropriate for the lighter gauge metals used in aircraft). After > spending a couple weeks learning to not destroy everything I touch with it, > I can finally create ugly looking things that would loosely fall into the > category of a weld. But is is fun, and great to have the ability to fix a > lot of things that were previously thrown out or limped along with JB weld. > > I have been able to repair cracks in my exhaust system and beef up my 4130 > engine mount, not to mention a ton of projects at home. > > Wish I did it sooner. > > David Leonard > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Charlie England < > flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > >> Several years ago, some rotary users tried various flattened exhaust >> tips, as seen on a lot of European homebuilts. (Supposed to help with >> making exhaust tone less irritating.) IIRC, everyone found that the rotary >> would destroy the tips very quickly. Well, while walking through the >> Fantasy of Flight museum about a week ago, I noticed these tips on (IIRC) a >> P-40. Looks like they maintained a curved shape but were still able to have >> the pinched outlet. Don't know if it would actually work with a rotary, but >> it should have a better chance than the purely flat tips. >> >> Charlie >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> > --001a1143f2ac2eaa9b0530529935 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dave,
The tig is great. One thing to remember is to anneal the area around welds = whenever possible. Tig allows you to weld many metals but annealing prevent= s cracking right next to the weld later. If it is a motor mount it is a goo= d idea to shot peen as well.

Bill Jepson

On Apr 12, 2016 5:02 PM, "David Leonard&quo= t; <flyrotary@lancaironli= ne.net> wrote:
Charlie,
Your post below reminded me that I wanted t= o thank everyone who suggested I get a TIG system rather than some other fo= rm of welding set-up.=C2=A0 After getting up to speed on the benefits of th= e different types of welding, it is clear that TIG was the only solution fo= r my needs (most versatile and most appropriate for the lighter gauge metal= s used in aircraft).=C2=A0 After spending a couple weeks learning to not de= stroy everything I touch with it, I can finally create ugly looking things = that would loosely fall into the category of a weld.=C2=A0 But is is fun, a= nd great to have the ability to fix a lot of things that were previously th= rown out or limped along with JB weld.

I have been= able to repair cracks in my exhaust system and beef up my 4130 engine moun= t, not to mention a ton of projects at home. =C2=A0

Wish I did it sooner.

David Leonard

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 3:= 28 PM, Charlie England <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Several years ago, some rotary = users tried various flattened exhaust tips, as seen on a lot of European ho= mebuilts. (Supposed to help with making exhaust tone less irritating.) IIRC= , everyone found that the rotary would destroy the tips very quickly. Well,= while walking through the Fantasy of Flight museum about a week ago, I not= iced these tips on (IIRC) a P-40. Looks like they maintained a curved shape= but were still able to have the pinched outlet. Don't know if it would= actually work with a rotary, but it should have a better chance than the p= urely flat tips.

Charlie

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