X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Tom Gillespie" Received: from nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.212.187] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.7) with ESMTPS id 8172380 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 09:23:49 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.212.187; envelope-from=pseudowilly33@ymail.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s2048; t=1447856611; bh=g6sSvBypYXmJsTOh6BgY5uHMNlbNPH8+eCg1IHnuGw0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=Uz61N+kp63gEBzQfJcCmH1EBZ7xoECS+uS2QHXTpwZLcPRIHy/LlBI8Jzn/worctQDCrbqFUHLI8tbahanj/n5ZmDcEgpwgw4rpaXB4wXJN+LJRjv+S9soOxaifx0hyr2DBIL0TIYjMG+V0WkHZjEj0ldwyJq6spBOj5h2rLNo5ApPez69Npbc3C3bx3dptgMv2Kj39XupftKHSr3BpzzsPoh5tzf7PhSBiWFTZR3fkYn3aqyqaHBiUalSuu61/XZoW/DpCVm73rPffrfZ5i7FQmfcXE0JDjuX/0AGsdb7fN2bqWd9tUZE8LYrxkNzh9mfI4wUXdauvKzh6FbASXsw== Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2015 14:23:31 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.253] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2015 14:23:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1066.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2015 14:23:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 166021.37809.bm@omp1066.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: GatqWY0VM1lEDqeEJc_8F1gY2_aO4o4RRJFQJymQcVIv8b39AK9v6prfshoNs.j IKdzUAMMCu0EWMRXBkWewNHvi3advQFJM7rULvb76Gn3ioYc9R7kNXwkMRg0cWBgwMc60ZMWZfVn YdmCGz0b9nsbxOU3d_jb0vAdwc0FlrrIRhauLoiLjIf6yTNjtxNjp4BjGQT0Nfn670OpUgbzW52j Rn4Xd.Jfq9J6bx70e44tvxLKaBqTLsrwKC0Cm2yRGctK3WHyA1v7zDTrKcHY01M74NtRrgT_iEv0 E0d2t5t5oL8mo7y15tpNVd7FwR6h4hGeNvbL79xZ9hvnJmM.NZFUGpWokkV4AQO.XHVyuO2cEVZk uAYk.eRnQdLMHza20YUTwe6f3i4HEHHLoxoEUvUHNtYFh8TL2KGl61OKFZo_pNQH2V.1LNULhd_Y Y7eD8ndpvhercxBvkDbkNT.poedxH12UUv7QqHbOiHmbx36.339NYro7kKrAb2nAFyHiMPfyhcIf uT6RALlq1edFsf6hU3q4x.6TaNkBFxQ-- Received: by 66.196.80.115; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:23:30 +0000 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Reply-To: Tom Gillespie To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-ID: <980119437.7309125.1447856610225.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ground testing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7309124_4815363.1447856610186" Content-Length: 9203 ------=_Part_7309124_4815363.1447856610186 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Good morning all. Not trying to hijack this thread but I can'= t log on to post for some reason.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Anyway, my project is up for= sale and I have a fresh 20B with judge Ito porting done, new high grade 2m= m seals, gaskets etc. E mail me for more pics and info off line please.=C2= =A0Thanks everyone~~~tg~~~=C2=A0 From: Andrew Martin To: Rotary motors in aircraft =20 Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:34 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ground testing =20 Both temps are fine at idle, could possibly idle indefinately, any power ma= kes oil temp peak first, just not enough air from the prop, need to be movi= ng.I have an issue where fuel is pooling in a low spot in=C2=A0the intake r= unners at idle. Kind of like auto rich=C2=A0adjustment as the engine eventu= ally sucks it in. Makes tuning fun.=C2=A0seems ok at mid to high rpm.Andrew On Wednesday, 18 November 2015, Stephen Izett = wrote: Thanks AndrewWhat happens to your water temps? Is it just your oil thats th= e problem?Steve On 18 Nov 2015, at 12:10 PM, Andrew Martin wr= ote: Steve, Looks like were both at about the same point. I have run my engine s= tationary for a couple of hours now, just trying to fine tune the EC2. My t= emps are fine for about 4-5 minutes but definitely not enough airflow to co= ol the oil when stationary so takes lots of short run ups, I'm thinking its= better to just rough tune then get on the runway to get some air through t= he coolers. definitely need to rig up a video to record, as too much happens at once. I had a TC & AP inspection in Sept. lots of little issues to fix with the a= irframe which I'd neglected, due to being so immersed in the powerplant. mo= st bits done now so will be back into engine runs again soon. Cheers Andrew On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:05 AM, steve Izett = wrote: Hi Guys For those who have tested and flying their machines. I=E2=80=99m finally about to ground(stationary) test our Renesis 4 port pow= ered Glassier Super IIRG EC2, EM3, RD1-C Electrical Pitch Prop. Your wisdom, experiences, testing procedures to carry out would be very muc= h appreciated. Particularly whats reasonable to expect from my cooling system (modelled of= Tracy=E2=80=99s RV8)? Now I=E2=80=99m sure it depends upon load and OAT, but what where your expe= riences? How long could you guys run before overheating etc? Did you provide any supplemental cooling to extend this testing? I=E2=80=99m thinking of putting a water mist jet into the cooling duct/s to= see if it significantly increases cooling and time testing. Appreciate you feedback. Sincerely Steve Izett -- Homepage:=C2=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub:=C2=A0 =C2=A0http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyro= tary/List.html --=20 Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag ------=_Part_7309124_4815363.1447856610186 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 =   Good morning all. Not trying to hijack this thread but I can't log = on to post for some reason.
  &n= bsp; Anyway, my project is up for sale and I have a fresh 20B with judge It= o porting done, new high grade 2mm seals, gaskets etc. E mail me for more p= ics and info off line please.
 Thanks everyone
~~~tg~~~ 

From: Andr= ew Martin <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancair= online.net>
Sent: = Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:34 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ground testing

Both temps are fine at idle, could possibly idle ind= efinately, any power makes oil temp peak first, just not enough air from th= e prop, need to be moving.
I hav= e an issue where fuel is pooling in a low spot in the intake runners a= t idle. Kind of like auto rich adjustment as the engine eventually suc= ks it in. Makes tuning fun. seems ok at mid to high rpm.
Andrew

On Wednesday, 18 = November 2015, Stephen Izett <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Thanks And= rew
What happens to your water temps? Is it just your oil thats the pro= blem?
Steve
On 18 N= ov 2015, at 12:10 PM, Andrew Martin <flyro= tary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

<= div>Steve, Looks like were both at about the same point. I have run my engi= ne stationary for a couple of hours now, just trying to fine tune the EC2. = My temps are fine for about 4-5 minutes but definitely not enough airflow t= o cool the oil when stationary so takes lots of short run ups, I'm thinking= its better to just rough tune then get on the runway to get some air throu= gh the coolers.
definitely need to rig up a video to record, = as too much happens at once.

I had a TC & = AP inspection in Sept. lots of little issues to fix with the airframe which= I'd neglected, due to being so immersed in the powerplant. most bits done = now so will be back into engine runs again soon.

Ch= eers
Andrew




On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:05 A= M, steve Izett <flyrotar= y@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Hi Guys
For those who have tested and flying their machines.
I=E2=80=99m finally about to ground(stationary) test our Renesis 4 port pow= ered Glassier Super IIRG
EC2, EM3, RD1-C Electrical Pitch Prop.

Your wisdom, experiences, testing procedures to carry out would be very muc= h appreciated.

Particularly whats reasonable to expect from my cooling system (modelled of= Tracy=E2=80=99s RV8)?
Now I=E2=80=99m sure it depends upon load and OAT, but what where your expe= riences?
How long could you guys run before overheating etc?
Did you provide any supplemental cooling to extend this testing?
I=E2=80=99m thinking of putting a water mist jet into the cooling duct/s to= see if it significantly increases cooling and time testing.

Appreciate you feedback.

Sincerely

Steve Izett



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