X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Bill Bradburry" Received: from vms173025pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.25] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.4) with ESMTPS id 7803701 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:34:48 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.46.173.25; envelope-from=bbradburry@verizon.net Received: from Desktop ([71.164.185.6]) by vms173025.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NQP00B7DN4JFPF0@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:34:00 -0500 (CDT) X-CMAE-Score: 0 X-CMAE-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=ff9QsBkF c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=20weQFHSdBTlwctzPCQ/Gw==:117 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=kUPQlYmSbg0A:10 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=66o1R4rEPSLbJVBIA9EA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=qbqESpr5b0DnFjPGSUwA:9 a=jFXacWv6aDtwauIF:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-reply-to: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: West Aussie Rotary Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:33:56 -0500 Message-id: <67DA8338D1DF4ADF908C4CB5339D445F@Desktop> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01D0B24E.BAB435B0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: AdCydiMwitYpNdKxTlOzOL0mHnUWOQAAdR2Q X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01D0B24E.BAB435B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew, That radiator looks like my first install attempt except I fed it with a duct that came in on the lower left side instead of underneath. I doubt foil will solve your blistering paint problem. That exhaust is hot! I have a muffler that is over 15MM from the cowl and with foil on the cowl the paint still blisters. Bill _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:00 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: West Aussie Rotary Must admit, all info re cooling exit came from Peter Garrison, I really like people that think outside the square rather than accepting "conventional". If the photo below attaches, it shows the engine being setup a couple of years ago, wedge duct can be seen on radiator, divergent duct is not on the plane but goes under the engine mount, exhaust is all fabricated on farm, manifold is piece of 150x50 mm oval cattle rail 3mm thick with 3 50x25 mm RHS stubs welded to exhaust flange, pipe angles were deliberate to reflect as much sound back into engine as possible, but not restrict flow, seems to work so far. no muffler needed. stainless heat shield now wraps around manifold but not pipe, its this area which is blistering paint so need to stick some foil to inside cowl. Intake now has small filter attached directly to TB for simplicity. Andrew On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Charlie England wrote: Looks like a really nice design. The cooling exits look a bit like Peter Garrison's Melmoth; I think he had good luck with the design. The 'turbine' exhaust exit does look cool. :-) Did you include a muffler, or did you just turn the stock exhaust manifold exit out the side? How are you protecting the cowl from melting near the pipe? Looking forward to seeing engine installation pics. Keep 'em coming (or just put them on a photo sharing site). Thanks, Charlie ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01D0B24E.BAB435B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Andrew,

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That radiator looks like my first = install attempt except I fed it with a duct that came in on the lower left side = instead of underneath.

I doubt foil will solve your = blistering paint problem.  That exhaust is hot!  I have a muffler that is = over 15MM from the cowl and with foil on the cowl the paint still = blisters.

Bill

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Monday, June 29, = 2015 9:00 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = West Aussie Rotary

 

Must admit, = all info re cooling exit came from Peter Garrison, I really like people that think = outside the square rather than accepting = "conventional".

If the photo below attaches, it shows the engine being setup a = couple of years ago, wedge duct can be seen on radiator, divergent duct is not = on the plane but goes under the engine mount, exhaust is all fabricated on = farm, manifold is piece of 150x50 mm oval cattle rail 3mm thick with 3 50x25 = mm RHS stubs welded to exhaust flange, pipe angles were deliberate to reflect = as much sound back into engine as possible, but not restrict flow, seems to work = so far. no muffler needed. stainless heat shield now wraps around manifold = but not pipe, its this area which is blistering paint so need to stick some foil = to inside cowl.
Intake now has small filter attached directly to TB for = simplicity.

 

Andrew



 

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Charlie England <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Looks like a really nice design. The cooling exits look a bit = like Peter Garrison's Melmoth; I think he had good luck with the design. The 'turbine' exhaust exit does look cool. :-) Did you include a muffler, or = did you just turn the stock exhaust manifold exit out the side? How are you protecting the cowl from melting near the pipe? Looking forward to = seeing engine installation pics. Keep 'em coming (or just put them on a photo = sharing site).

 

Thanks,

 

Charlie

 

 

 

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