X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Stephen Izett" Received: from mail-pd0-f174.google.com ([209.85.192.174] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.4) with ESMTPS id 7802665 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 21:15:50 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.192.174; envelope-from=steveize@gmail.com Received: by pdbci14 with SMTP id ci14so106602265pdb.2 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:15:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to; bh=6kTd0yehO9pY4kAEvW98FBWp98PjX9Loj9sUAQ80OFs=; b=n/W7cCZbh/ht/YPtrHo/lXnXFn+Ih2Db0Ef60dmKROttEaGTMLbLvnXczzLnqtK1Ja mJxL84Dit0Fa9ivl1RimvAL7S6NadzHNxe367PCZZRx4nEkYd/UgfcbNngn/k4E7AeAd zHb0KPxk/N/+kXRbknhKsIvm6FW2PObUQr9PtZOeJFn9tycvU0FO5o11crP9WPuD/7cw Tz2sROXedUsDjAfPtVbM4ZM+zNu8umUnxIpFqrVzTtEa0Lz3QoJAWCqX6Wpj7qyQ3pxc G8ymIz6PGFEI9dqu/AokKpIbk3AM3LKDRCi1OQszbWpzVu9aXFeWTGWe1CJuueDX7rRp WF1w== X-Received: by 10.68.135.233 with SMTP id pv9mr26880880pbb.115.1435540515542; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [172.20.10.2] ([120.16.20.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qy7sm40165725pbb.12.2015.06.28.18.15.09 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:15:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: Stephen Izett Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DDEB8E83-7C08-4037-B0DB-82BADB1866EC" Message-Id: <72213A76-938E-4C8F-9C05-798FCF9A06D3@icloud.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: West Aussie Rotary Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:15:04 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) --Apple-Mail=_DDEB8E83-7C08-4037-B0DB-82BADB1866EC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi MK good to have another West Aussie building. All the best with you plans. Anytime your in Perth your welcome to drop = by. Steve > On 29 Jun 2015, at 6:42 am, Martin King = wrote: >=20 > Hello Steve >=20 > I'm up in the Murchison on a Cattle & Sheep Station. About a eight = hour drive up the Great Northern Highway from Perth. > . > Ideally I'd love to build a E-Racer or Cozy MkIV but the local landing = strips don't encourage that type of plane. So wanting to build a = composite I'm going to build a Vision. >=20 > Regards > MK >=20 > On 29 June 2015 at 06:29, Stephen Izett > wrote: > Hi there MK > Where are you and what are you building? >=20 > Steve Izett > Perth WA >=20 >> On 29 Jun 2015, at 6:13 am, Neil Unger > wrote: >>=20 >> PSRU, Hopefully after 2 years in the dessert, I am now informed that = my first PSRU will be finished mid July. That is after I finally spat = the dummy and told the engineering works to either do something or I = will go elsewhere. They were suitably amazed =E2=80=93 even after 2 = years! Same shape as tracys, but the higher reduction, 3.12 : 1. Also = working on a flex drive. Have all sorts on my bench to destroy to see = just what they will stand. Everything from polyurethane to rubber. = Nothing that time will not fix. >> Steve, do not know how the glasair performs at stall, but my = glastar sportsman is a dog. I lose elevator control just at the stall = which allows the sportsman to bounce beautifully unless you are within 2 = inches of the ground. I assumed that after 50 years of flying dementia = had set in and I just lost the art of landing. Then by chance I was = talking to another bloke who mentioned that he knew another bloke with a = sportsman who has the same problem. Rang the gent who assured that from = his research all sportsmans are the same, which of course the factory = will never admit. The cure is to put VG=E2=80=99s on the elevator and = wing if you wish. Now full control through the stall. I now have $120 = worth of VG=E2=80=99s on my desk to stick on to see the difference. = Just look at www.stolspeed.com and make up = your own mind. He has very compelling evidence to justify the $120. =20 >> Good luck with the test flight. My second motor and different = cowling almost ready to put the PSRU on it for testing. Nothing that = another 500 hours did not fix. Neil >> From: Martin King >> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 2:28 AM >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: West Aussie Rotary >> =20 >> Hello Andrew & Steve >>=20 >> I didn't realise there were any West Aussies on this list at all. >>=20 >> I have a 13 B which I want to tear down and rebuild but no PSRU. >> I was planning on using a Tracy built one but that is not possible. = Any ideas on possible suitable units. >>=20 >> Regards >> MK >> =20 >> On 28 June 2015 at 21:50, Andrew Martin > wrote: >> Hi Steve, I'm just up the coast at YGEL.=20 >> Not really problems, just frustrations sometimes trying to work it = out. Being at the airport just makes it harder as it slows progress = quite a bit more than working at home. >> EC2 is easy once the manual is read a few times and understood = properly. >> Good to hear your making progress too. >> Andrew >>=20 >> On Sunday, June 28, 2015, Stephen Izett > wrote: >> Hi there Andrew >> Sorry to here of your problems. >> What airport are you at? >> I=E2=80=99ll read with interest as you learn to tune your setup as we = have Tracy=E2=80=99s EC2 also with the 4 port. >> =20 >> We are in the middle of painting. Wing is on stands in the hangar at = SABC serpentine waiting on the fuse to be painted and assembled. >> Hoping to start ground testing in about a month or two=E2=80=99s = time. >> =20 >> Cheers >> =20 >> Steve Izett >> =20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Regards >> Andrew Martin >> Martin Ag >> =20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_DDEB8E83-7C08-4037-B0DB-82BADB1866EC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi MK good to have another West Aussie building.
All the best with you plans. Anytime your in Perth your = welcome to drop by.

Steve
On 29 Jun 2015, at 6:42 am, Martin King = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Hello Steve

I'm up in the = Murchison on a Cattle & Sheep Station. About a eight hour drive up = the Great Northern Highway from Perth.
.
Ideally I'd love to build a E-Racer or Cozy MkIV but = the local landing strips don't encourage that type of plane. So wanting = to build a composite I'm going to build a Vision.

Regards
MK

On 29 = June 2015 at 06:29, Stephen Izett <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Hi there MK
Where= are you and what are you building?

Steve Izett
Perth = WA

On 29 = Jun 2015, at 6:13 am, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

PSRU,  Hopefully after 2 years in the dessert, I am = now informed that=20 my first PSRU will be finished mid July.  That is after I finally = spat the=20 dummy and told the engineering works to either do something or I will go=20= elsewhere.  They were suitably amazed =E2=80=93 even after 2 = years!  Same=20 shape as tracys, but the higher reduction,  3.12 : 1.  Also = working on=20 a flex drive.  Have all sorts on my bench to destroy to see just = what they=20 will stand.  Everything from polyurethane to rubber.  Nothing = that=20 time will not fix.
    Steve,  do not know how the = glasair performs at=20 stall, but my glastar sportsman is a dog.  I lose elevator control = just at=20 the stall which allows the sportsman to bounce beautifully unless you = are within=20 2 inches of the ground.  I assumed that after 50 years of flying = dementia=20 had set in and I just lost the art of landing.  Then by chance I = was=20 talking to another bloke who mentioned that he knew another bloke with a=20= sportsman who has the same problem.  Rang the gent who assured that = from=20 his research all sportsmans are the same, which of course the factory = will never=20 admit.  The cure is to put VG=E2=80=99s on the elevator and wing if = you wish. =20 Now full control through the stall.  I now have $120 worth of = VG=E2=80=99s on my=20 desk to stick on to see the difference.  Just look at  www.stolspeed.com  and make up your own=20 mind.  He has very compelling evidence to justify the = $120.  =20
   = =20 Good luck with the test flight.  My second motor and different = cowling=20 almost ready to put the PSRU on it for testing.  Nothing that = another 500=20 hours did not fix.  Neil
From: Martin King
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 2:28 = AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: West Aussie = Rotary
 
Hello Andrew & Steve

I didn't realise there were any West=20 Aussies on this list at all.

I have a = 13 B which I want to tear=20 down and rebuild but no PSRU.
I was planning on = using a Tracy built one=20 but that is not possible. Any ideas on possible suitable=20 units.

Regards
MK
 
On 28 June 2015 at 21:50, Andrew Martin <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> = wrote:
Hi=20 Steve, I'm just up the coast at YGEL. =20
Not really problems, just frustrations sometimes = trying to work it out.=20 Being at the airport just makes it harder as it slows progress quite a = bit=20 more than working at home.
EC2 is easy once the manual is read a few times and = understood=20 properly.
Good to hear your making progress too.
Andrew

On Sunday, June 28, 2015,=20 Stephen Izett <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> = wrote:
Hi there Andrew=20
Sorry to here of your problems.
What airport are you at?
I=E2=80=99ll read with interest as you learn to tune = your setup as we have=20 Tracy=E2=80=99s EC2 also with the 4 port.
 
We are in the middle of painting. Wing is on stands = in the hangar at=20 SABC serpentine waiting on the fuse to be painted and = assembled.
Hoping to start ground testing in about a month or = two=E2=80=99s time.
 
Cheers
 
Steve Izett
 

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Regards
Andrew Martin
Martin=20 Ag
 



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