X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Martin King" Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com ([209.85.212.175] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.4) with ESMTPS id 7802565 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:43:29 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.212.175; envelope-from=mavking@gmail.com Received: by wiwl6 with SMTP id l6so84418237wiw.0 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:42:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=15Bum7r0gX+pcKrdyU7ucyq95kqGp5ZkxXGCdjz4mp4=; b=WPwPI6gao/1P/WSZtiTUDQC4uYIAy4Cjg7I7O1pzLNwd+w7YLR657Z6EUXFi1jFfyR z9VsqnJQlWf5W3a+doVlpzzhlR5x7GQvfRvSjC8UMq+by0UT/cxD9FeoSh+B69IHkSYz HnbeAKgdy2Rw3SiqL3BdJkc44zvdvVPOtQN6yAaEHnHffhDNiZiDnG1e9523MyjwUteD 2VAhjRWwSfjo5k0qrlqFDwm6L12bSzoMXPg0FW4/bxa46fRZGj8UAJlZmAKctzT5GY4n i8KI/iA+cnhTUFpUj3yfHxjVuYemiXiqXLts/JSz9LgO7QczIwqrnACnrU18mnm1/r1E P0XA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.176.225 with SMTP id cl1mr23709079wjc.45.1435531373009; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Sender: mavking@gmail.com Received: by 10.194.136.111 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 15:42:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 06:42:52 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: iN9nKDbp1kgtFMYX3JS2TdsIuWo Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: West Aussie Rotary To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0122f5a08d5f2405199bb193 --089e0122f5a08d5f2405199bb193 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Steve I'm up in the Murchison on a Cattle & Sheep Station. About a eight hour drive up the Great Northern Highway from Perth. . Ideally I'd love to build a E-Racer or Cozy MkIV but the local landing strips don't encourage that type of plane. So wanting to build a composite I'm going to build a Vision. Regards MK On 29 June 2015 at 06:29, Stephen Izett wrote= : > Hi there MK > Where are you and what are you building? > > Steve Izett > Perth WA > > On 29 Jun 2015, at 6:13 am, Neil Unger > wrote: > > PSRU, Hopefully after 2 years in the dessert, I am now informed that > my first PSRU will be finished mid July. That is after I finally spat th= e > dummy and told the engineering works to either do something or I will go > elsewhere. They were suitably amazed =E2=80=93 even after 2 years! Same= shape as > tracys, but the higher reduction, 3.12 : 1. Also working on a flex > drive. Have all sorts on my bench to destroy to see just what they will > stand. Everything from polyurethane to rubber. Nothing that time will n= ot > fix. > Steve, do not know how the glasair performs at stall, but my glastar > sportsman is a dog. I lose elevator control just at the stall which allo= ws > the sportsman to bounce beautifully unless you are within 2 inches of the > ground. I assumed that after 50 years of flying dementia had set in and = I > just lost the art of landing. Then by chance I was talking to another > bloke who mentioned that he knew another bloke with a sportsman who has t= he > same problem. Rang the gent who assured that from his research all > sportsmans are the same, which of course the factory will never admit. T= he > cure is to put VG=E2=80=99s on the elevator and wing if you wish. Now fu= ll control > through the stall. I now have $120 worth of VG=E2=80=99s on my desk to s= tick on to > see the difference. Just look at www.stolspeed.com and make up your > own mind. He has very compelling evidence to justify the $120. > Good luck with the test flight. My second motor and different > cowling almost ready to put the PSRU on it for testing. Nothing that > another 500 hours did not fix. Neil > *From:* Martin King > *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 2:28 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: West Aussie Rotary > > Hello Andrew & Steve > > I didn't realise there were any West Aussies on this list at all. > > I have a 13 B which I want to tear down and rebuild but no PSRU. > I was planning on using a Tracy built one but that is not possible. Any > ideas on possible suitable units. > > Regards > MK > > On 28 June 2015 at 21:50, Andrew Martin > wrote: > >> Hi Steve, I'm just up the coast at YGEL. >> Not really problems, just frustrations sometimes trying to work it out. >> Being at the airport just makes it harder as it slows progress quite a b= it >> more than working at home. >> EC2 is easy once the manual is read a few times and understood properly. >> Good to hear your making progress too. >> Andrew >> >> On Sunday, June 28, 2015, Stephen Izett >> wrote: >> >>> Hi there Andrew >>> Sorry to here of your problems. >>> What airport are you at? >>> I=E2=80=99ll read with interest as you learn to tune your setup as we h= ave >>> Tracy=E2=80=99s EC2 also with the 4 port. >>> >>> We are in the middle of painting. Wing is on stands in the hangar at >>> SABC serpentine waiting on the fuse to be painted and assembled. >>> Hoping to start ground testing in about a month or two=E2=80=99s time. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Steve Izett >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards >> Andrew Martin >> Martin Ag >> > > > > --089e0122f5a08d5f2405199bb193 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Steve

I'm up in= the Murchison on a Cattle & Sheep Station. About a eight hour drive up= the Great Northern Highway from Perth.
.
Ideally I'd love = to build a E-Racer or Cozy MkIV but the local landing strips don't enco= urage that type of plane. So wanting to build a composite I'm going to = build a Vision.

Regards
MK

On 29 June 2015 at 06:29, Stephen = Izett <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Hi there MK<= div>Where are you and what are you building?

Steve= Izett
Perth WA

On 29 Jun 2015, at 6:13 am, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net= > wrote:

PSRU,=C2=A0 Hopefully after 2 years in the dessert, I am now informed = that=20 my first PSRU will be finished mid July.=C2=A0 That is after I finally spat= the=20 dummy and told the engineering works to either do something or I will go=20 elsewhere.=C2=A0 They were suitably amazed =E2=80=93 even after 2 years!=C2= =A0 Same=20 shape as tracys, but the higher reduction,=C2=A0 3.12 : 1.=C2=A0 Also worki= ng on=20 a flex drive.=C2=A0 Have all sorts on my bench to destroy to see just what = they=20 will stand.=C2=A0 Everything from polyurethane to rubber.=C2=A0 Nothing tha= t=20 time will not fix.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Steve,=C2=A0 do not know how the glasair performs a= t=20 stall, but my glastar sportsman is a dog.=C2=A0 I lose elevator control jus= t at=20 the stall which allows the sportsman to bounce beautifully unless you are w= ithin=20 2 inches of the ground.=C2=A0 I assumed that after 50 years of flying demen= tia=20 had set in and I just lost the art of landing.=C2=A0 Then by chance I was= =20 talking to another bloke who mentioned that he knew another bloke with a=20 sportsman who has the same problem.=C2=A0 Rang the gent who assured that fr= om=20 his research all sportsmans are the same, which of course the factory will = never=20 admit.=C2=A0 The cure is to put VG=E2=80=99s on the elevator and wing if yo= u wish.=C2=A0=20 Now full control through the stall.=C2=A0 I now have $120 worth of VG=E2=80= =99s on my=20 desk to stick on to see the difference.=C2=A0 Just look at=C2=A0 www.stolspeed.com=C2=A0 a= nd make up your own=20 mind.=C2=A0 He has very compelling evidence to justify the $120.=C2=A0=C2= =A0=20
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 Good luck with the test flight.=C2=A0 My second motor and different cowling= =20 almost ready to put the PSRU on it for testing.=C2=A0 Nothing that another = 500=20 hours did not fix.=C2=A0 Neil
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 2:28 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <= /div>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: West Aussie Rotary
=C2=A0
Hello Andrew & Steve

I didn't realise there were = any West=20 Aussies on this list at all.

I have a 13 B which I want to tea= r=20 down and rebuild but no PSRU.
I was planning on using a Tracy buil= t one=20 but that is not possible. Any ideas on possible suitable=20 units.

Regards
MK
=C2=A0
On 28 June 2015 at 21:50, Andrew Martin <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Hi=20 Steve, I'm just up the coast at YGEL.=C2=A0=20
Not really problems, just frustrations sometimes trying to work it o= ut.=20 Being at the airport just makes it harder as it slows progress quite a bi= t=20 more than working at home.
EC2 is easy once the manual is read a few times and understood=20 properly.
Good to hear your making progress too.
Andrew

On S= unday, June 28, 2015,=20 Stephen Izett <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Hi there Andrew=20
Sorry to here of your problems.
What airport are you at?
I=E2=80=99ll read with interest as you learn to tune your setup as= we have=20 Tracy=E2=80=99s EC2 also with the 4 port.
=C2=A0
We are in the middle of painting. Wing is on stands in the hangar = at=20 SABC serpentine waiting on the fuse to be painted and assembled.
Hoping to start ground testing in about a month or two=E2=80=99s t= ime.
=C2=A0
Cheers
=C2=A0
Steve Izett
=C2=A0

--
Regards
Andrew Martin
Martin=20 Ag
=C2=A0

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