X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nskntmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com ([61.9.168.146] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6637068 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 23:30:10 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=61.9.168.146; envelope-from=neil.unger@bigpond.com Received: from nskntcmgw08p ([61.9.169.168]) by nskntmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20131213042931.ZIWB2025.nskntmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntcmgw08p> for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 04:29:31 +0000 Received: from UserPC ([121.217.164.147]) by nskntcmgw08p with BigPond Outbound id 0sVS1n00e3B7qep01sVT2J; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 04:29:31 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=b8MwE66x c=1 sm=1 a=YyHow8ywFHWthJ8SrmF2aA==:17 a=aAF-ERx40m4A:10 a=JDadKst33uMA:10 a=1IlZJK9HAAAA:8 a=1i3qIJHpN6YA:10 a=pedpZTtsAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=N8B9JuSIAAAA:8 a=5R9yrlscIJSIN70rk9cA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Z1BvOZmT1TIA:10 a=eJojReuL3h0A:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=v-dA8eBNdMxtjEPN:21 a=2Nv0P2HXpH_lX8-C:21 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=1XUquSwlGTr4E3yRsQ8A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=YyHow8ywFHWthJ8SrmF2aA==:117 Message-ID: <81F8BDE9D8F642E4AA3A76B6F79AA2B9@UserPC> From: "Neil Unger" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 2 cycle premix Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 15:29:14 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01CEF818.148DE470" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3555.308 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01CEF818.148DE470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tracy, If you are happy with 6000 for take off, What rpm do you = cruise at? Did you ever manage to get the monitor to record litres?? = Neil. From: Tracy=20 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 9:33 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 2 cycle premix Using a 74 x 88 2blade on my Renesis. I get about 6000 on takeoff so I = would not say you have too much prop. possibly too little if that 6800 = rpm is accurate. 1800 EGT is not unusual at peak EGT & WOT. .75 oz per gal oil mix. Tracy On Dec 10, 2013, at 19:08, "Neil Unger" wrote: All, finally flying again, but my prop is too big. It is a = 70=E2=80=9D dia by 90 inch pitch. Max revs on takeoff is about 6800 and = the EGT is pushing over the 1850 degrees. Obviously the prop is too big = as revs are restricted and the motor is working too hard hence the EGT. = What size props are you people running?? 2 rotor renesis. Neil. From: David Leonard=20 Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 7:12 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 2 cycle premix I use the same mix, but at closer to 1 oz/gal. Why? That is what = Tracy does. Dont think it is very critical over the short term. I have = gone without oil for a tank or two when I didn't plan well. I have also = put multi-weight aviation engine oil in (at .5 oz/gal) on one occasion = when I forgot to bring along any 2-stroke oil at all. Dave Leonard On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Bill Bradburry = wrote: I use the same mix as Dennis but at the rate of 3/4 oz/gal in = non-ethanol auto gas. My engine is a Renesis with 70 flight hours. Bill B -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Clouduster Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 9:17 AM=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 2 cycle premix=20 I use a 50 - 50 mix of MM and WalMart 2 stroke @ 0.50 oz/ gal. Mixed = in auto gas. My engine is a Renesis with 500 +hrs. Dennis H. Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2013, at 16:29, ARGOLDMAN@aol.com wrote: Greetings all, For those of you who are actually flying and have some time on = your rotaries and are using Pre-mix 2 cycle oil: 1) what oil are you using 2) why that brand 3) what ratios are you using 4 where is the best place to get it Thanks Rich --=20 David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01CEF818.148DE470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
tracy,
            = If you=20 are happy with 6000 for take off, What rpm do you cruise at?   = Did you=20 ever manage to get the monitor to record litres?? Neil.
 
From: Tracy
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 9:33 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 2 cycle premix
 
Using a 74 x 88 2blade on my Renesis.  I get about 6000 on = takeoff so=20 I would not say you have too much prop.   possibly too little = if that=20 6800 rpm is accurate.    1800 EGT is not unusual at peak = EGT=20 & WOT.
 
.75 oz per gal oil mix.
 
Tracy
 

On Dec 10, 2013, at 19:08, "Neil Unger" <neil.unger@bigpond.com>=20 wrote:

All,
          finally = flying=20 again, but my prop is too big. It is a 70=E2=80=9D dia by 90 inch = pitch.  Max=20 revs on takeoff is about 6800 and the EGT is pushing over the 1850=20 degrees.  Obviously the prop is too big as revs are restricted = and the=20 motor is working too hard hence the EGT.  What size props are you = people=20 running??  2 rotor renesis.  Neil.
 
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 7:12 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 2 cycle premix
 
I use the same mix, but at closer to 1 oz/gal.  Why?  = That is=20 what Tracy does.  Dont think it is very critical over the short=20 term.  I have gone without oil for a tank or two when I didn't = plan=20 well.  I have also put multi-weight aviation engine oil in (at .5 = oz/gal)=20 on one occasion when I forgot to bring along any 2-stroke oil at = all.
 
Dave Leonard

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Bill = Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:

I use the = same mix=20 as Dennis but at the rate of 3/4 oz/gal in non-ethanol auto = gas.  My=20 engine is a Renesis with 70 flight = hours.

 

Bill=20 B

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Clouduster
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 = 9:17 AM=20


To: Rotary motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 2 = cycle=20 premix

 

I use a 50 - 50 mix of MM and WalMart 2 = stroke @=20 0.50 oz/ gal. Mixed in auto gas.  My engine is a Renesis with = 500=20 +hrs.

 

Dennis H.

Sent from my=20 iPad


On Jul = 25, 2013, at=20 16:29, ARGOLDMAN@aol.com=20 wrote:

Greetings=20 all,

 

For those of you who = are=20 actually flying and have some time on your rotaries and are using = Pre-mix=20 2 cycle oil:

 

1)  what oil = are you=20 using

2)   why = that=20 brand

3)   what = ratios are=20 you using

4    = where is=20 the best place to get it

 

Thanks

 

Rich

=


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