X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.86] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6510135 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:58:50 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.143.86; envelope-from=ARGOLDMAN@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B53E7701620D1 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dsc002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dsc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.253.69]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7B0C3E000081 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:58:13 -0400 (EDT) From: ARGOLDMAN@aol.com Full-name: ARGOLDMAN Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 12:58:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] waterless coolant? To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c3310.5738305d.3f8836a4_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.7 sub 56 X-Originating-IP: [67.184.240.46] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1381424293; bh=R9aI+tFEWI0vS/Np/4MYhcNe3A+cT0OzJDPw3NecjwY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q8tIdACyJNNTd5g5tIFWKUF9bVF0PjTfeMgM4lZrVBGi6FrDOigIdELGcHFyTzeae BJ29U7UwIfmZpLU3wCF9fLw29ZqL2DaeZQKPCjV7/oeF9nVYRXOF5EtdUptYS6eIDQ /tfsPtAXsLif9Y5Etvbv87hKDCEFahI6oF6QkKY8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c75256dca5444c --part1_c3310.5738305d.3f8836a4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pretty cool stuff, The stuff does have a higher boiling point, however we are severely restricted to our max cooling temps to begin with-- unless you don't like your "o" rings. Will the increased boiling point mitigate point boiling or will it do the same as our pressure water/glycol system? My understanding is that the material runs at atmospheric pressure, and that is nice. how do it's characteristics vary when at altitude? My further understanding is that the material is quite costly and cannot be mixed with H2O under any circumstance. If switching over, the H2O must be thoroughly purged from the system. My further further understanding is that it is quite rare in the field and that if you have to top off, for any reason, as stated before, you can't just add water (unless you drain the entire system) or wait until the automotive people can supply you.. or you can carry a gallon of so if it along with your pre-mix. At one time, I was very interested in it's potential for my aircraft, however I don't think it is ready for prime-time, at least in me Rich In a message dated 10/10/2013 11:22:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time, silvius@gwi.net writes: While on the subject of cooling, I am curious if anyone has tried the waterless coolant? Seems to offer some advantages, namely higher boiling boint and low pressure, is there any reason it should not be used in our aplication? http://www.evanscooling.com/ Michael --part1_c3310.5738305d.3f8836a4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pretty cool stuff,
 
The stuff does have a higher boiling point, however we are severely=20 restricted to our max cooling temps to begin with-- unless you don't like y= our=20 "o" rings. Will the increased boiling point mitigate point boiling or will = it do=20 the same as our pressure water/glycol system?
 
My understanding is that the material runs at atmospheric pressure, an= d=20 that is nice. how do it's characteristics vary when at altitude?
 
My further understanding is that the material is quite costly and cann= ot be=20 mixed with H2O under any circumstance. If switching over, the H2O must be= =20 thoroughly purged from the system.
 
My further further understanding is that  it is quite rare in the= =20 field and that if you have to top off, for any reason, as stated before, yo= u=20 can't just add water (unless you drain the entire system) or wait until the= =20 automotive people can supply you.. or you can carry a gallon of so if it al= ong=20 with your pre-mix.
 
At one time, I was very interested in it's potential for my aircraft,= =20 however I don't think it is ready for prime-time, at least in me
 
Rich
 
In a message dated 10/10/2013 11:22:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 silvius@gwi.net writes:
=
While on the subject of= cooling,=20 I am curious if anyone has tried the waterless coolant? Seems t= o=20 offer some advantages, namely higher boiling boint and low pressure,= is=20 there any reason it should not be used=20 in our aplication?
http://www.evanscooling.com/
 
Michael
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