X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6505664 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:26:51 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.214.41; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id na10so2771170bkb.14 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 10:26:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=tX4gEoe2r9mY/xmyLAdDco3DixZYw+em+xgmO8LFndo=; b=yniocUmbVnY/6SHrLOt3kjh0gbee84RefT7HzvAaYkd6BKTMboXJWK8cWoPMDNKaSR NQr/6wSgNP8KVfl6S+1CxQ2vzYiziaUQM2BIeUeiyuw5kk31TVW8YgT8nLp6EohTiu20 0t9Cl6nrWJgux6aMJmnr9wvFSVYgVbngnUnXUjm4Dr3oy6kwyBP9U4EkzRFD8Gls+rk0 u2gUYINGhC1F+zu9xu2x+viF03fg1J0AhgvTMNx4p7U9DjptTGoKhVVc0q2ASeSij/KM OEbvppqFYd7YCObDVK6MdlHD4uvRrPuwpxr6jn+JV50ZpPvBZ86QxtkWYdEOpzE9xCFQ VDqw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.205.78.5 with SMTP id zk5mr7985172bkb.25.1381166767761; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 10:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.102.195 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 10:26:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:26:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Prop and PSRU efficiency From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d041038a791af7a04e829f23c --f46d041038a791af7a04e829f23c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bill, While you're at it don't forget to account for the water pump and alternator(s). Mark S. On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Bill Bradburry wrote: > I have asked this question a couple of times and no one has hazarded a > guess. > > How much HP is lost from our engines due to the PSRU? I have been > interested in determining what the HP output of my engine is and that info > would be needed for that estimation. > > They tell me that most props are about 80-85% efficient, so to calculate > the > hp, you take the difference between your climb rate and your glide descent > rate at the same airspeed, multiplied by the weight, and then divided by > 33000. > > Wt * V / 33000 = HP > > This would be the prop HP, so to get the prop flange HP, you would divide > by > the prop efficiency, between .8 and .85. > > To get the engine flywheel HP, you would have to add something for the loss > of the PSRU. > > Is anyone willing to take a shot at that number?? Third or forth chance! > :>) > > Bill B > > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --f46d041038a791af7a04e829f23c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bill,
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While you're at it= don't forget to account for the water pump and alternator(s).
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Mark S.


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsou= th.net> wrote:
I have asked this question a couple of times and no one has hazarded a
guess.

How much HP is lost from our engines due to the PSRU? =A0I have been
interested in determining what the HP output of my engine is and that info<= br> would be needed for that estimation.

They tell me that most props are about 80-85% efficient, so to calculate th= e
hp, you take the difference between your climb rate and your glide descent<= br> rate at the same airspeed, multiplied by the weight, and then divided by 33000.

Wt * V / 33000 =3D HP

This would be the prop HP, so to get the prop flange HP, you would divide b= y
the prop efficiency, between .8 and .85.

To get the engine flywheel HP, you would have to add something for the loss=
of the PSRU.

Is anyone willing to take a shot at that number?? =A0Third or forth chance!=
:>)

Bill B




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