X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net ([204.127.217.105] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 6420360 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 20:08:12 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.217.105; envelope-from=bbradburry@bellsouth.net Received: from desktop (adsl-98-85-141-180.mco.bellsouth.net[98.85.141.180]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20130816000735H05008q48te>; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 00:07:35 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [98.85.141.180] From: "Bill Bradburry" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine monitor sensors Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 20:07:36 -0400 Message-ID: <2BA6D4CC8CCB4E04B2B6189CC784F9E7@Desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01CE99F3.1659A740" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 Thread-Index: Ac6Z9AXgMEEygPNtT4C6LG/gvTBw3QAIImIQ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CE99F3.1659A740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Tracy I will try that. B2 _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 4:14 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine monitor sensors Don't know. You can try this: Set Ch. 13 Lower Limit = 0 (if this was set to 1 it may mean the unit was updated recently enough, if 0, probably not. Set Ch 12 (fuel press) to: Scale Factor = 6.922 Zero Offset = 0 Sensor offset to current ADC reading on that screen (with no oil pressure). On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Bill Bradburry wrote: Time flies, but it has been updated recently, maybe a year to 18 months? Would that be recent enough? B2 _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:03 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine monitor sensors Depends on when your EM2 was last updated. If it was before i started recommending the SW sender, it will have to be updated to work with the SW sender. If later than that, there is a procedure for selecting the type of sender in use in the calibration table of the EC2/3. Tracy Sent from my iPad On Aug 15, 2013, at 14:54, "Bill Bradburry" wrote: Tracy, Will this sending unit calibrate the same as the original unit you supplied with the EM-2? I tried to install another VDO sending unit after I was told they leak because the one you had supplied has never leaked. The damn thing immediately leaked! I am trying to install one in front of the fuel filter and one after the filter and in front of the pressure regulator. This is so I can monitor the pressure drop across the fuel filter so I may be able to tell when it needs to be replaced. I have a switch in the line to switch between the two sending units but I think they would need to calibrate the same??? Bill _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:01 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine monitor sensors Hi Joe, For Fuel pressure use a Stewart Warner 114875. These are available from Summit Racing as PN SWW-114875. There is only one sensor you could possibly share with a monitor (inlet air temp) and I would not recommend sharing that one. All the best, Tracy On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 7:17 AM, wrote: Hi, I am trying to put together an engine monitor to measure oil temp, oil pressure, water temp, water pressure, fuel pressure, EGTs, tach,air pressure (for delta P across the rad). I am using an EC4 to get the P Port running and will switch to something else (EC-3) for flight. Sending units need to be as close to working values as possible. The GM temp sensor looks like it will work for water and oil and i got a program working using an arduino board USBed to my PC. The VDO 360-009 0-80PSI looks like it would work for oil pressure and the VDO 360-043 Looks like it would work for water pressure. 0-30psi. What is every one using for fuel pressure? I believe the target is 38 psi for the pumps that John used. I found an app for apple devices that displays data and gets it via wifi. There is a wifi sheild for the arduino so it looks doable. Thought it would work while I dial in the P Port. Can the engine monito and ECU share sensor inputs? Does there need to be signal conditioning? Appreciate any help / input. Joe Berki Limo EZ P Port -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CE99F3.1659A740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks, Tracy I will try = that.

 

B2

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy
Sent: Thursday, August = 15, 2013 4:14 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Engine monitor sensors

 

Don't = know.  You can try this:

Set Ch. 13 = Lower Limit =3D 0   (if this was set to 1 it may mean the unit was updated = recently enough, if 0, probably not.

Set  Ch 12 (fuel press) to:

 Scale Factor =3D  6.922

Zero Offset =3D 0

Sensor offset to current ADC reading on that screen (with no oil pressure).

 

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Time flies, but it has been updated recently, maybe a year = to 18 months?  Would that be recent enough?

 

B2

 

From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy
Sent: Thursday, August = 15, 2013 3:03 PM


To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Engine monitor sensors

 

Depends on when your EM2 was last updated.  If it was before i started recommending = the SW sender, it will have to be updated to work with the SW sender.   If = later than that, there is a procedure for selecting the type of sender in use = in the calibration table of the EC2/3.

 

Tracy&nbs= p;

Sent from my iPad


On Aug 15, 2013, at 14:54, "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Tracy,

Will this sending unit calibrate the same as the original = unit you supplied with the EM-2?  I tried to install another VDO sending = unit after I was told they leak because the one you had supplied has never = leaked.  The damn thing immediately leaked!

I am trying to install one in front of the fuel filter and = one after the filter and in front of the pressure regulator.  This is = so I can monitor the pressure drop across the fuel filter so I may be able to = tell when it needs to be replaced.  I have a switch in the line to switch = between the two sending units but I think they would need to calibrate the = same???

 

Bill

 

From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy
Sent: Thursday, August = 15, 2013 11:01 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Engine monitor sensors

 

Hi Joe,
   For Fuel pressure use a Stewart Warner  114875.      These are = available from Summit Racing as PN  SWW-114875. 

There = is only one sensor you could possibly share with a monitor (inlet air temp) and I = would not recommend sharing that one.

<= font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman">All = the best,

Tracy

 

On = Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 7:17 AM, <jskmberki@windstream.net> wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to put together an engine monitor to measure oil temp, oil pressure, water temp, water pressure, fuel pressure, EGTs, tach,air = pressure (for delta P across the rad).  I am using an EC4 to get the P Port = running and will switch to something else (EC-3) for flight.  Sending units = need to be as close to working values as possible.  The GM temp sensor = looks like it will work for water and oil and i got a program working using an arduino board USBed to my PC.  The VDO 360-009 0-80PSI looks like = it would work for oil pressure and the VDO 360-043 Looks like it would work for = water pressure. 0-30psi.  What is every one using for fuel pressure? =  I believe the target is 38 psi for the pumps that John used.  I found = an app for apple devices that displays data and gets it via wifi.  There = is a wifi sheild for the arduino so it looks doable.  Thought it would = work while I dial in the P Port.  Can = the  engine monito and ECU share sensor inputs?  Does there need = to be signal conditioning?  Appreciate any help / input.

Joe Berki
Limo EZ
P Port


--
Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/
Archive and UnSub:   http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.h= tml

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CE99F3.1659A740--