X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com ([209.85.212.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6420099 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 16:14:17 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.212.180; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id f14so114319wiw.13 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:13:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=24X8HrsN2zPMczvt2aWR5Ye8WPlfvPqGs22Udf9596I=; b=IIW7RLqdAHzEuL4y9xN/oiob/1vqc6cn6qFQdB6lcSk7d2609IbLa/qXbQsSuPaVwo 58HWDHPh6A+leFNGmYU1o+A4VHKFNXTv6L4WY1elqxHcDeRRpOBVqVUwUjsmWVxr6ec4 NgzJ3SaQLCY8rQXQXzy0QqbPxlCOnnmFpSV1o7t9k0fItxyXgL2oBkGsnXPkzNJ0G4lB LOszQ/+WvWTthbWEDavWC5dlpW5c/GOVgMtSpo9zitl27Y5j8nMu4MN/X6iqtd8Pph71 ki0ewYexLuJJYuzVLqrZCywaJ8TNaqNC1vX+Hlgh6AiP4TUND0APFHfRUnoFM7/pur1U wjXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.94.69 with SMTP id da5mr2969374wib.3.1376597621192; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.190.228 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:13:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 16:13:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine monitor sensors From: Tracy To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0442694a35bf8804e4021c67 --f46d0442694a35bf8804e4021c67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Don't know. You can try this: Set Ch. 13 Lower Limit = 0 (if this was set to 1 it may mean the unit was updated recently enough, if 0, probably not. Set Ch 12 (fuel press) to: Scale Factor = 6.922 Zero Offset = 0 Sensor offset to current ADC reading on that screen (with no oil pressure). On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Bill Bradburry wrote: > ** ** ** ** ** > > Time flies, but it has been updated recently, maybe a year to 18 months? > Would that be recent enough?**** > > ** ** > > B2**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* **Rotary motors in aircraft** [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] > *On Behalf Of *****Tracy**** > *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:03 PM > > *To:* **Rotary motors in aircraft** > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Engine monitor sensors > **** > > ** ** > > Depends on when your EM2 was last updated. If it was before i started > recommending the SW sender, it will have to be updated to work with the SW > sender. If later than that, there is a procedure for selecting the type > of sender in use in the calibration table of the EC2/3.**** > > ** ** > > ****Tracy**** > > Sent from my iPad**** > > > On Aug 15, 2013, at 14:54, "Bill Bradburry" > wrote:**** > > ********** > > ********Tracy********,******** > > Will this sending unit calibrate the same as the original unit you > supplied with the EM-2? I tried to install another VDO sending unit after > I was told they leak because the one you had supplied has never leaked. > The damn thing immediately leaked!******** > > I am trying to install one in front of the fuel filter and one after the > filter and in front of the pressure regulator. This is so I can monitor > the pressure drop across the fuel filter so I may be able to tell when it > needs to be replaced. I have a switch in the line to switch between the > two sending units but I think they would need to calibrate the same???**** > **** > > ** ****** > > Bill ******** > > ** ****** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* ****Rotary motors in aircraft**** [ > mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net ] *On > Behalf Of *****Tracy******** > *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:01 AM > *To:* ****Rotary motors in aircraft**** > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Engine monitor sensors******** > > ** ****** > > Hi Joe, > For Fuel pressure use a Stewart Warner 114875. > These are available from > Summit Racing as PN *SWW-114875. ********* > > *There is only one sensor you could possibly share with a monitor (inlet > air temp) and I would not recommend sharing that one.********* > > *All the best,********* > > *********Tracy***************** > > ** ****** > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 7:17 AM, wrote:******** > > Hi, > I am trying to put together an engine monitor to measure oil temp, oil > pressure, water temp, water pressure, fuel pressure, EGTs, tach,air > pressure (for delta P across the rad). I am using an EC4 to get the P Port > running and will switch to something else (EC-3) for flight. Sending units > need to be as close to working values as possible. The GM temp sensor > looks like it will work for water and oil and i got a program working using > an arduino board USBed to my PC. The VDO 360-009 0-80PSI looks like it > would work for oil pressure and the VDO 360-043 Looks like it would work > for water pressure. 0-30psi. What is every one using for fuel pressure? I > believe the target is 38 psi for the pumps that John used. I found an app > for apple devices that displays data and gets it via wifi. There is a wifi > sheild for the arduino so it looks doable. Thought it would work while I > dial in the ********P**** ****Port.******** Can the engine monito and > ECU share sensor inputs? Does there need to be signal conditioning? > Appreciate any help / input. > > Joe Berki > Limo EZ > P Port > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html******** > > ** ****** > > ********** > --f46d0442694a35bf8804e4021c67 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Don't know.=A0 You can try th= is:

Set Ch. 13 Lower Limit =3D 0=A0=A0 (if this was set to 1 i= t may mean the unit was updated recently enough, if 0, probably not.
Set=A0 Ch 12 (fuel press) to:
=A0Scale Factor =3D=A0 6.922
Zero Offset =3D 0
Sensor offset to current ADC reading on that s= creen (with no oil pressure).


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote"> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsou= th.net> wrote:

Time flies, but it has been u= pdated recently, maybe a year to 18 months?=A0 Would that be recent enough?=

=A0

B2

=A0

From: Rot= ary motors in aircraft [mailto:fl= yrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2= 013 3:03 PM


To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Eng= ine monitor sensors

=A0

Depends on when your EM2 was last updated. =A0If it = was before i started recommending the SW sender, it will have to be updated to work with= the SW sender. =A0 If later than that, there is a procedure for selecting the type of sender in use in the calibration table of the EC2/3.<= /span>

=A0

Tracy=A0
Sent from my iPad


On Aug 15, 2013, at 14:54, "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry@bellsouth.net&g= t; wrote:

T= racy,

Will this sending unit calibr= ate the same as the original unit you supplied with the EM-2?=A0 I tried to install another VDO sending unit after I was told they leak because the one you had supplie= d has never leaked.=A0 The damn thing immediately leaked!

I am trying to install one in= front of the fuel filter and one after the filter and in front of the pressure regulator.=A0 This is so I can monitor the pressure drop across the fuel filter so I may be able to tell when it needs to be replaced.=A0 I have a switch in the line to switch between the two sending units but I think they would need to calibrate the same???

=A0

Bill

=A0

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of <= u>Tracy
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2= 013 11:01 AM
To: Rotary mot= ors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Eng= ine monitor sensors

=A0

Hi Joe,
=A0=A0 For Fuel pressure use a = Stewart Warner=A0 114875.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 These are available from Summit Racing as PN=A0 SWW-114875= .=A0

There is only one sen= sor you could possibly share with a monitor (inlet air temp) and I would not recommend sharing that one.=

All the best,

Tracy<= /strong>

=A0<= /u>

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 7:17 AM, <jskmberki@windstream.net= > wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to put together an engine monitor to measure oil temp, oil pressure, water temp, water pressure, fuel pressure, EGTs, tach,air pressur= e (for delta P across the rad). =A0I am using an EC4 to get the P Port runnin= g and will switch to something else (EC-3) for flight. =A0Sending units need to be as close to working values as possible. =A0The GM temp sensor looks like it will work for water and oil and i got a program working using an arduino board USBed to my PC. =A0The VDO 360-009 0-80PSI looks like it woul= d work for oil pressure and the VDO 360-043 Looks like it would work for wate= r pressure. 0-30psi. =A0What is every one using for fuel pressure? =A0I believe the target is 38 psi for the pumps that John used. =A0I found an ap= p for apple devices that displays data and gets it via wifi. =A0There is a wifi sheild for the arduino so it looks doable. =A0Thought it would work while I dial in the P <= /u>Port. =A0Can the =A0engine monito and ECU share sensor inputs? =A0Does there need to be signal conditioning? =A0Appreciate any help / input.

Joe Berki
Limo EZ
P Port


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