X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-vb0-f43.google.com ([209.85.212.43] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6419974 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:03:13 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.212.43; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by mail-vb0-f43.google.com with SMTP id h11so912009vbh.16 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:02:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=utDILTNOuBp1Y9alcQQZW+k4jbDi93b3yrUEoahjCHQ=; b=KOp59jpGasRUrJN0P2y1gMDupAAwhJgDx1vEO20STpZFGBhR5jfMsrI7beDbJnuAG2 uOTSH21ClrjU4KWtFAkcB2FOamjPP4xQFS5UfJKdogGPbX4OL+LIkJ78Cw572qwioF8G iX0CzPjNoIgHxpSjVcJxfk9JMrHbhgjXreD5ok0lhe0Sm6hl/iwickhbcTGI2q1e5V/P W7hV7UzrhtHL9W8NZPJA1aRiFaZ1HqVRBzuzchehY8GpZ6OJPQm0pZFw9jwRQAX0UAFf 8iYWxLFTgNwzIKT+JMTKrHqHk329wzMqzs69jF5mmOn4ixPnD6jH4QhpUj3ZN1KcDd58 f+Cw== X-Received: by 10.58.210.138 with SMTP id mu10mr159400vec.52.1376593358033; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.3] (23.sub-70-209-14.myvzw.com. [70.209.14.23]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e8sm544933vdh.8.2013.08.15.12.02.35 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine monitor sensors References: From: Tracy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3C488103-F40C-4136-91D2-DA1E75C58337 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <91A1B722-06D9-45F4-8F65-11977F39C7B7@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:02:35 -0400 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-3C488103-F40C-4136-91D2-DA1E75C58337 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Depends on when your EM2 was last updated. If it was before i started recom= mending the SW sender, it will have to be updated to work with the SW sender= . If later than that, there is a procedure for selecting the type of sende= r in use in the calibration table of the EC2/3. Tracy=20 Sent from my iPad On Aug 15, 2013, at 14:54, "Bill Bradburry" wrote= : > Tracy, > Will this sending unit calibrate the same as the original unit you supplie= d with the EM-2? I tried to install another VDO sending unit after I was to= ld they leak because the one you had supplied has never leaked. The damn th= ing immediately leaked! > I am trying to install one in front of the fuel filter and one after the f= ilter and in front of the pressure regulator. This is so I can monitor the p= ressure drop across the fuel filter so I may be able to tell when it needs t= o be replaced. I have a switch in the line to switch between the two sendin= g units but I think they would need to calibrate the same??? > =20 > Bill > =20 > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Be= half Of Tracy > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:01 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine monitor sensors > =20 > Hi Joe, > For Fuel pressure use a Stewart Warner 114875. These are availabl= e from Summit Racing as PN SWW-114875.=20 >=20 > There is only one sensor you could possibly share with a monitor (inlet ai= r temp) and I would not recommend sharing that one. >=20 > All the best, > Tracy > =20 >=20 > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 7:17 AM, wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to put together an engine monitor to measure oil temp, oil pre= ssure, water temp, water pressure, fuel pressure, EGTs, tach,air pressure (f= or delta P across the rad). I am using an EC4 to get the P Port running and= will switch to something else (EC-3) for flight. Sending units need to be a= s close to working values as possible. The GM temp sensor looks like it wil= l work for water and oil and i got a program working using an arduino board U= SBed to my PC. The VDO 360-009 0-80PSI looks like it would work for oil pre= ssure and the VDO 360-043 Looks like it would work for water pressure. 0-30p= si. What is every one using for fuel pressure? I believe the target is 38 p= si for the pumps that John used. I found an app for apple devices that disp= lays data and gets it via wifi. There is a wifi sheild for the arduino so i= t looks doable. Thought it would work while I dial in the P Port. Can the = engine monito and ECU share sensor inputs? Does there need to be signal co= nditioning? Appreciate any help / input. >=20 > Joe Berki > Limo EZ > P Port >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List= .html > =20 --Apple-Mail-3C488103-F40C-4136-91D2-DA1E75C58337 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Depends on when your EM2 was last updated.  If it was before i started recommending the SW sender, it will have to be updated to work with the SW sender.   If later than that, there is a procedure for selecting the type of sender in use in the calibration table of the EC2/3.

Tracy 

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On Aug 15, 2013, at 14:54, "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Tracy,

Will this sending unit calibrate the same as the original unit you supplied with the EM-2?  I tried to install another VDO sending unit after I was told they leak because the one you had supplied has never leaked.  The damn thing immediately leaked!

I am trying to install one in front of the fuel filter and one after the filter and in front of the pressure regulator.  This is so I can monitor the pressure drop across the fuel filter so I may be able to tell when it needs to be replaced.  I have a switch in the line to switch between the two sending units but I think they would need to calibrate the same???

 

Bill

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:01 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine monitor sensors

 

Hi Joe,
   For Fuel pressure use a
Stewart Warner  114875.      These are available from Summit Racing as PN  SWW-114875. 

There is only one sensor you could possibly share with a monitor (inlet air temp) and I would not recommend sharing that one.

All the best,

Tracy

 

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 7:17 AM, <jskmberki@windstream.net> wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to put together an engine monitor to measure oil temp, oil pressure, water temp, water pressure, fuel pressure, EGTs, tach,air pressure (for delta P across the rad).  I am using an EC4 to get the P Port running and will switch to something else (EC-3) for flight.  Sending units need to be as close to working values as possible.  The GM temp sensor looks like it will work for water and oil and i got a program working using an arduino board USBed to my PC.  The VDO 360-009 0-80PSI looks like it would work for oil pressure and the VDO 360-043 Looks like it would work for water pressure. 0-30psi.  What is every one using for fuel pressure?  I believe the target is 38 psi for the pumps that John used.  I found an app for apple devices that displays data and gets it via wifi.  There is a wifi sheild for the arduino so it looks doable.  Thought it would work while I dial in the P Port.  Can the  engine monito and ECU share sensor inputs?  Does there need to be signal conditioning?  Appreciate any help / input.

Joe Berki
Limo EZ
P Port


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