X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-yh0-f43.google.com ([209.85.213.43] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6291591 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 May 2013 21:43:18 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.213.43; envelope-from=ceengland7@gmail.com Received: by mail-yh0-f43.google.com with SMTP id a41so703732yho.30 for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 18:42:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=e0BObCWcHrv3w5oKnW/0T2gqmS2okMJfhNOugbBiilc=; b=A9Om88XZ30HftAPPsv+c8SRAJs3ZmL+QaFpxSmILZYuueBRfAyyV1mwYrWDuui5iVU M7J2M9vjVJG1beYRDR6/sEmULZ/UnX2FG3dMRsxHni7HD2EIgtVt1I0n712LNUxl8Ojq whPdYhk+lXX1Sz1YN7HOYmKblb8uf0F6s1QYddGOnGN+tcJzVF/QY/aIy0YlwhEDQOlu e2xj864AiPb8oIqdhoDIjngvNDRHCk7nZT6rNs4QuPZxG1PJthufdtwYFAxAtw9PkGaw QTHFK4bEFLjfVNnWqoyLv8bf++7Qxzh4nil6Bw6L43jPYp0mekTwr/Nv4uWhoE6ql2h5 1S9w== X-Received: by 10.236.137.204 with SMTP id y52mr6218795yhi.103.1369618964978; Sun, 26 May 2013 18:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.10.15] (adsl-98-95-234-65.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.234.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e72sm9821807yhi.18.2013.05.26.18.42.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 26 May 2013 18:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51A2BA14.7050609@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 20:42:44 -0500 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130308 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: oil cooler mount question References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I guess it does look a bit strange. It's still early in the design/fab process. Tentative plan is to re-shape that flange so it somewhat mimics a K&W 'streamline" diffuser curve, then transition to the round James cowl inlet. It may yet get cut off & replaced with fiberglass. The other side will stay flat & form a divider between the oil cooler air & the air feeding the throttle body (not yet mounted) that will face forward, just outside the outboard side of the oil cooler. The cooler is so far off-center from the inlet centerline that there will likely be a steering vane in there, too. I spent a lot of time trying to find a cooler that is better suited for a/c use (smaller H/W, thicker core) but I just didn't have any luck. I suppose that the upside is, airflow per sq in of face should be similar to the rad, which is about the same thickness & fin density. I hope to manage exit ducts on both so I can independently control airflow through each, but I may run out of energy & patience before that happens. Charlie On 05/26/2013 07:57 PM, Gordon Alling wrote: > Charlie, > > Do I understand the photo shows a baffle between the cowl air inlet and the > oil cooler face? If that is correct, is it intended to distribute the inlet > air across the face of the heat exchanger? Does it work? Have you measured > temps across the face of the HX? > > My intuition says that that baffle will shield a large portion of the HX > face and reduce the effectiveness. But my intuition is notoriously bad > (that's why I haven't made gobs of money on the stock market). Let us know > how effective the heat transfer is. > > Gordon C. Alling, Jr., PE > President > acumen Engineering/Analysis, Inc. > > 540-786-2200 > www.acumen-ea.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On > Behalf Of Charlie England > Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 1:13 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] oil cooler mount question > > I've started design/fabrication/redesign of my oil cooler mount/diffuser. > Just as I had a 'final' answer on the mount & was contemplating the > diffuser, it occurred to me that I didn't have any shock mount provisions > for the heat exchanger. For those who have been flying for a while, have any > of you hard mounted the cooler to its support structure? As the photo shows, > the primary mount is direct to the reduction drive plate. I would simply add > the shock mounts, but if I use this particular cooler (a CX Racing 30 row > unit like the one on Tracy's 20B), I won't have any room. I do have the > option of buying a 25 row or using the 19 row I already have on hand, but > I'd rather have a bit too much capacity & throttle the exit air than start > with too little & have to rebuild everything. > > Thanks, > > Charlie > > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html