X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.4) with ESMTP id 6215130 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:51:42 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.120; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=cYNQXw/M c=1 sm=0 a=g3L/TDsr+eNLfIieSKfGkw==:17 a=AHkS0RJitIMA:10 a=uXD7NJmuw4EA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=jXiUiNI-hqYA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=on22okXAAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=I-_HO4bxK0Vv-G8Ct-MA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=at0Q5_2dr5wA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=HEsSt-XXbFicsO_c:21 a=y0yq_Mj4u8HN8PPM:21 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=5CKeXNaXG6t8zsOtXGMA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=Qrx8AADNpxIMWx-b:21 a=ZHUsY8zHUz0Vp2Os_2YA:9 a=1Vq_FK4TplAA:10 a=g3L/TDsr+eNLfIieSKfGkw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 174.110.170.10 Received: from [174.110.170.10] ([174.110.170.10:61887] helo=EdPC) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 0B/58-11869-B6C55715; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:51:08 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: [Fly Rotary]: Ed's dead stick club Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:51:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01CE3F4F.AE344330"; type="multipart/alternative" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01CE3F4F.AE344330 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0022_01CE3F4F.AE344330" ------=_NextPart_001_0022_01CE3F4F.AE344330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Airspeed and altitude are the only two instruments that I can recall = seeing in my incidents. On one turn to final that I was making a bit = too tight, I glanced at the airspeed to see if falling through 85mph and = rate of sink up to 1000 fpm. Loosened up the turn and lowered the nose = picking up airspeed and lowering rate of descent for a sweet landing - = don't like to think about what could have happened had I continued to = tighten the turn. Ed From: ARGOLDMAN@aol.com=20 Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:18 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [Fly Rotary]: Ed's dead stick club Chris, In the middle of an engine out situation is not the most opportune time = to look at the instruments, and perhaps impossible, (been there), but on = the off chance that you were able to look, or had some sort of recording = device, What was your fuel pressure, and coolant pressure, as well as = any other things you remember. It is really terrific that you arrived safely with a great landing (one = from which you can take off again). Rich In a message dated 4/22/2013 7:14:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, = jwhaley@datacast.com writes: Chris, good job and glad you made it onto the runway you had =E2=80=A6 = check fuel system (return and venting), oil lines, accessory belts, = water pump, alternator,=E2=80=93 keep us posted as to findings. At 100 hours TT, experienced a Lycoming eat an exhaust valve =E2=80=A6 = a very shaky situation; fortunately I had just turned base and throttled = back =E2=80=A6 it pays to fly tight circuits =E2=80=93 just in case. Ed, based on your system, I=E2=80=99ll take =C2=BC credit for last = year=E2=80=99s cornfield harvest =E2=80=A6 I landed just = =E2=80=9Canywhere=E2=80=9D myself but the airplane didn=E2=80=99t fare = so well =E2=80=A6 progressing with the rebuild. But being 5 miles away from the runway at 1500=E2=80=99 isn=E2=80=99t = the same as 5 miles away at 8000=E2=80=99. Jeff From: "Ed Anderson" =20 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's dead stick club =20 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:48:14 -0400 =20 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" = =20 =20 =20 =20 Ok, Dave You get 1/2 credit - I mean if you can just pick "anywhere" to = land - where's the challenge? {:>) Ed From: David Leonard=20 Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:03 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's dead stick club =20 This message, and the documents attached hereto, is intended only for = the addressee and may contain privileged or confidential information. = Any unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received = this message in error, please notify us immediately so that we may = correct our internal records. Please then delete the original message. = Thank you.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6264 - Release Date: = 04/22/13 ------=_NextPart_001_0022_01CE3F4F.AE344330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Airspeed and altitude are the only two instruments = that I can=20 recall seeing in my incidents.  On one turn to final that I was = making a=20 bit too tight, I glanced at the airspeed to see if falling through 85mph = and=20 rate of sink up to 1000 fpm.  Loosened up the turn and lowered the = nose=20 picking up airspeed and lowering rate of descent for a sweet landing - = don't=20 like to think about what could have happened had I continued to tighten = the=20 turn.
 
Ed
 
 

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:18 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [Fly Rotary]: Ed's dead stick=20 club

Chris,
 
In the middle of an engine out situation is not the most opportune = time to=20 look at the instruments, and perhaps impossible, (been there), but on = the off=20 chance that you were able to look, or had some sort of recording device, = What=20 was your fuel pressure, and coolant pressure, as well as any other = things you=20 remember.
 
It is really terrific that you arrived safely with a great landing = (one=20 from which you can take off again).
 
Rich
 
In a message dated 4/22/2013 7:14:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 jwhaley@datacast.com writes:

Chris, good job and glad you made it onto the = runway you=20 had =E2=80=A6 check fuel system (return and venting), oil lines, = accessory belts,=20 water pump, alternator,=E2=80=93 keep us posted as to findings.

At 100 hours TT, experienced a Lycoming eat an = exhaust=20 valve =E2=80=A6 a very shaky situation; fortunately I had just turned = base and=20 throttled back =E2=80=A6 it pays to fly tight circuits =E2=80=93 just = in case.

 

Ed, based on your system, I=E2=80=99ll take = =C2=BC credit for last=20 year=E2=80=99s cornfield harvest =E2=80=A6 I landed just = =E2=80=9Canywhere=E2=80=9D myself but the airplane=20 didn=E2=80=99t fare so well =E2=80=A6 progressing with the = rebuild.

But being 5 miles away from the runway at = 1500=E2=80=99 isn=E2=80=99t the=20 same as 5 miles away at 8000=E2=80=99.

 

Jeff

 

 

From:

"Ed=20 Anderson" = <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>

Subject:

Re:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's dead stick = club

Date:

Mon,=20 22 Apr 2013 06:48:14 -0400

To:

"Rotary=20 motors in aircraft"=20 = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

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Ok,=20 Dave

 

You = get 1/2=20 credit - I mean if you can just pick "anywhere" to land - = where's the=20 challenge? {:>)

 

Ed

 

From: = David=20 Leonard

Sent: = Sunday,=20 April 21, 2013 9:03 PM

To: = Rotary motors in=20 aircraft

Subject: = [FlyRotary]=20 Re: Ed's dead stick club

 

 

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