X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.78] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.4) with ESMTP id 6215046 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:19:25 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.143.78; envelope-from=ARGOLDMAN@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D223E70007939 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dsd002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dsd002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.253.133]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8E2DBE000088 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:18:50 -0400 (EDT) From: ARGOLDMAN@aol.com Full-name: ARGOLDMAN Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: [Fly Rotary]: Ed's dead stick club To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_de772.5bd50899.3ea6aeda_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.7 sub 56 X-Originating-IP: [24.14.64.174] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/90078 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1366643930; bh=2F0EPiQtp5t8Ky2fjSC1kKaYLIzoVro/L7iCHecDsTM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KuLx1WzdS164ibFd1+Kqkg+VW7Lxko4gUEIFbUi07D1ot7MVVvcrQoPYJc+oVDa28 Z/Kxlyd51RhnJ1GNC7yaykeaKHovhgjUCfO91A3yPUjxgHPctYm0xrO2sxuHqqFkkd eGZ7hTluU5NxGzwvYTnGg5HAYnyCbYoskz0GYndA= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:478222976:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 3 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c517554da4464 --part1_de772.5bd50899.3ea6aeda_boundary Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="part1_de772.5bd50899.3ea6aeda_rel_boundary" --part1_de772.5bd50899.3ea6aeda_rel_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="de772.5bd50899_alt_bound" --de772.5bd50899_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en Chris, =20 In the middle of an engine out situation is not the most opportune time to = =20 look at the instruments, and perhaps impossible, (been there), but on the= =20 off chance that you were able to look, or had some sort of recording devic= e,=20 What was your fuel pressure, and coolant pressure, as well as any other=20 things you remember. =20 It is really terrific that you arrived safely with a great landing (one =20 from which you can take off again). =20 Rich =20 =20 In a message dated 4/22/2013 7:14:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, =20 jwhaley@datacast.com writes: =20 Chris, good job and glad you made it onto the runway you had =E2=80=A6 che= ck fuel=20 system (return and venting), oil lines, accessory belts, water pump,=20 alternator,=E2=80=93 keep us posted as to findings.=20 At 100 hours TT, experienced a Lycoming eat an exhaust valve =E2=80=A6 a v= ery=20 shaky situation; fortunately I had just turned base and throttled back =E2= =80=A6 it=20 pays to fly tight circuits =E2=80=93 just in case.=20 Ed, based on your system, I=E2=80=99ll take =C2=BC credit for last year=E2= =80=99s cornfield=20 harvest =E2=80=A6 I landed just =E2=80=9Canywhere=E2=80=9D myself but the a= irplane didn=E2=80=99t fare so=20 well =E2=80=A6 progressing with the rebuild.=20 But being 5 miles away from the runway at 1500=E2=80=99 isn=E2=80=99t the = same as 5 miles=20 away at 8000=E2=80=99.=20 Jeff=20 From: =20 "Ed Anderson" =20 Subject: =20 Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's dead stick club =20 Date: =20 Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:48:14 -0400 =20 To: =20 "Rotary motors in aircraft" =20 (http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/Message/59759-H.txt)=20 (http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/Message/59759-P.txt) =20 Ok, Dave=20 You get 1/2 credit - I mean if you can just pick "anywhere" to land -=20 where's the challenge? {:>)=20 Ed=20 From: _David Leonard_ (mailto:wdleonard@gmail.com) =20 Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:03 PM=20 To: _Rotary motors in aircraft_ (mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net) =20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's dead stick club=20 This message, and the documents attached hereto, is intended only for the= =20 addressee and may contain privileged or confidential information. Any=20 unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this= =20 message in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our= =20 internal records. Please then delete the original message. Thank you.=20 --de772.5bd50899_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en
Chris,
 
In the middle of an engine out situation is not the most opportune tim= e to=20 look at the instruments, and perhaps impossible, (been there), but on the o= ff=20 chance that you were able to look, or had some sort of recording device, Wh= at=20 was your fuel pressure, and coolant pressure, as well as any other things y= ou=20 remember.
 
It is really terrific that you arrived safely with a great landing (on= e=20 from which you can take off again).
 
Rich
 
In a message dated 4/22/2013 7:14:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 jwhaley@datacast.com writes:

Chris, good job and glad you made it onto the runway= you=20 had =E2=80=A6 check fuel system (return and venting), oil lines, accessor= y belts,=20 water pump, alternator,=E2=80=93 keep us posted as to findings.

At 100 hours TT, experienced a Lycoming eat an exhau= st=20 valve =E2=80=A6 a very shaky situation; fortunately I had just turned bas= e and=20 throttled back =E2=80=A6 it pays to fly tight circuits =E2=80=93 just in = case.

 

Ed, based on your system, I=E2=80=99ll take =C2=BC c= redit for last=20 year=E2=80=99s cornfield harvest =E2=80=A6 I landed just =E2=80=9Canywher= e=E2=80=9D myself but the airplane=20 didn=E2=80=99t fare so well =E2=80=A6 progressing with the rebuild.

But being 5 miles away from the runway at 1500=E2=80= =99 isn=E2=80=99t the=20 same as 5 miles away at 8000=E2=80=99.

 

Jeff

 

 

From:

"Ed=20 Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>

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Subject:

Re:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's dead stick club

Date:

Mon,=20 22 Apr 2013 06:48:14 -0400

To:

"Rotary=20 motors in aircraft"=20 <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

3Dhttp://lancairo=

3Dhttp://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/Message/59759-P.txt

Ok,=20 Dave

 

You get 1/2=20 credit - I mean if you can just pick "anywhere" to land - where's t= he=20 challenge? {:>)

 

Ed

 

From: David= =20 Leonard

Sent: Sunday,=20 April 21, 2013 9:03 PM

To: Rotary motors in=20 aircraft

Subject: [FlyRotary]=20 Re: Ed's dead stick club

 

 

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