X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.4) with ESMTP id 6214767 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:09:05 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.120; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Xpd4yC59 c=1 sm=0 a=g3L/TDsr+eNLfIieSKfGkw==:17 a=AHkS0RJitIMA:10 a=lydNM50scf0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=WefPFiAmJnYA:10 a=pcLIrrrKAAAA:8 a=N8B9JuSIAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=HRAqVD2vdo0mX79XPKwA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=ftFGBYpk1mUA:10 a=4rg-HWHWhJ0Gog24:21 a=GXWUia8gtianiv3-:21 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=O77bUK-lxoM680UT7ToA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=2YPRY6zgfE8m42ar:21 a=g3L/TDsr+eNLfIieSKfGkw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 174.110.170.10 Received: from [174.110.170.10] ([174.110.170.10:60474] helo=EdPC) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 9B/57-02984-E5445715; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:08:30 +0000 Message-ID: <4F368F70A84C47F58FAB5150824A05ED@EdPC> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's dead stick club Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:08:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AB_01CE3F41.57EA4C80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AB_01CE3F41.57EA4C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That is truly the ultimate criterion in a engine-out landing, John - = saving your butt - first and foremost. Generally, if you save the = aircraft you have saved the butt, but the converse is not always the = case. Ed From: downing.j@sbcglobal.net=20 Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:25 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's dead stick club Ed, in my case the challenge was saving my butt, the Tailwind is nearly = back together. What I really needed was aerobatic training to approach = inverted, than I would have landed upright. JohnD ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 6:48 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's dead stick club Ok, Dave You get 1/2 credit - I mean if you can just pick "anywhere" to land - = where's the challenge? {:>) Ed From: David Leonard=20 Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:03 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's dead stick club On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Ed Anderson = wrote: However, to claim the Engine Out mantle, you have to be more than 5 = miles from the airport when the engine quits (and still make it to the = airport) {:>). So Ed, are you telling me that because I didn't make it to an airport = on my 3 occasions it dosen't count? Heck, anyone can land on a RUNWAY. = ;-) Very well done Chris. Welcome to the club of aircraft systems = designer/maintainer shame. I agree that a fuel problem is most suspicious, but for tools you = should just bring everything. Be prepared to remove the engine while = you are there, or re-wire it, or re-design the fuel system. That way = you wont be sorry. I know what are feeling in terms of wrapping your head around what = just happened and what might be the cause. Let us know what you find. --=20 David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net=20 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6263 - Release Date: = 04/21/13 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6263 - Release Date: = 04/21/13 ------=_NextPart_000_00AB_01CE3F41.57EA4C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That is truly the ultimate criterion in a = engine-out=20 landing, John - saving your butt - first and foremost.  Generally, = if you=20 save the aircraft you have saved the butt, but the converse is not = always the=20 case.
 
Ed

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:25 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's dead stick = club

Ed, in my case the challenge was saving = my butt,=20 the Tailwind is nearly back together.  What I really needed was = aerobatic=20 training to approach inverted, than I would have landed upright. =20 JohnD
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 = 6:48=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's = dead stick=20 club

Ok, Dave
 
You get 1/2 credit - I mean if you can just = pick=20 "anywhere" to land - where's the challenge? {:>)
 
Ed

Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:03 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's dead stick = club




On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Ed Anderson = <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:


However, to claim the Engine Out mantle, = you have=20 to be more than 5 miles from the airport when the engine quits (and = still=20 make it to the airport) {:>).

So Ed, are you telling me that because I didn't make it to an = airport on=20 my 3 occasions it dosen't count?  Heck, anyone can land on a=20 RUNWAY.  ;-)

Very well done Chris.  Welcome to the club of aircraft = systems=20 designer/maintainer shame.

I agree that a fuel problem is most suspicious, but for tools you = should=20 just bring everything.  Be prepared to remove the engine while = you are=20 there, or re-wire it, or re-design the fuel system.  That way you = wont be=20 sorry.

I know what are feeling in terms of wrapping your head around = what just=20 happened and what might be the cause. Let us know what you = find.


--=20
David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.nethttp://RotaryRoster.net=20

No virus found in this=20 message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.3272 / = Virus=20 Database: 3162/6263 - Release Date: 04/21/13

No virus found in this=20 message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.3272 / = Virus=20 Database: 3162/6263 - Release Date: 04/21/13

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