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[70.193.202.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cy18sm13570447vdb.9.2012.08.05.06.34.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 05 Aug 2012 06:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary Forced Landing References: From: Tracy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5D0B8A97-462D-4573-80E1-416D92F68128 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <90805438-7605-4F44-A5E7-8F9DBB2ABDDE@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 07:34:27 -0600 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-5D0B8A97-462D-4573-80E1-416D92F68128 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I assume Al is referring to the pump intake side filter. So for the reco= rd, was it the inlet side or the high pressure side filter that clogged? ( B= oth are needed ) =46rom the symptoms I'm guessing high side but not sure. BTW, nice job! Tracy Sent from my iPad On Aug 4, 2012, at 3:53 PM, "Al Wick" wrote: > As long as your are rebuilding, tremendous safety improvement by using sam= e fuel filter method that all cars use. No matter how much foreign material y= ou throw at it, it can't clog. It minimizes pressure drop, so lower risk of v= apor lock. Self cleaning filter. Self priming pumps. > =20 > -Al Wick > Cozy IV powered by RDM Subaru 3.0R.=20 > Expert at failure prevention methods, N9032U 240+ hours from Portland, Ore= gon > Glass panel design, Subaru install, Prop construct, Risk assessment info: > http://www.ez.org/pages/alwick/index.htm > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jeff Whaley > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 1:38 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary Forced Landing >=20 > Dave, having gone through recently what you just experienced I would like t= o say GOOD JOB on getting down safely and with such little damage. Anyway a= t 1500 AGL there isn't a lot of time ... obviously you made the right choice= s. > Jeff > (Rebuilding my Ride) > =20 > From: David Leonard > Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Fw: Fw: [FlyRotary] Rotary Forced Landing > Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 06:18:47 -0700 > To: Rotary motors in aircraft >=20 >=20 > =20 > Sigh.. >=20 > Yup, that was me. I have been meaning to fess up. We were at about 1500 ag= l when the fuses blew on my fuel pumps. I was in a close formation of 40 air= craft at the time too. I think I got some bad MOGAS somewhere in Iowa as I d= id notice my fuel return flow creep downward but didn't think it was a big p= roblem.=20 >=20 > On the incident flight, a one hour formation flight from SQI for a mass ar= rival at OSH, the return fuel flow drifted down to zero. I actually though i= t was a sensor problem. I didn't have the ability to give it a lot of attent= ion because we were in a loose formation. Soon after we pulled it together f= or a tight formation power switched off. I tried to find a road, but quickly= ran out of options and put it down in a bean field. With the beans hitting t= he flaps it brought me to a stop in about 200ft, just before I would have go= ne into the full grown corn. As mentioned, wheel pants broke in half but no o= ther damage besides pulling bean leaves out of every nook and crann= y. The farmers were very nice, and the stories are true... they have attract= ive daughters. They were out there barefoot in their Sunday best enjoying th= e excitement. Helped me clean the fuel filter and replace the fuses. Within a= couple of hours I was able to take off from one of their driveways as they a= ll waived good bye (but strangely, no one took me up on my offer for a ride)= . >=20 > Landed at OSH just before dark to a reserved parking space and a very warm= reception from the formation group and friends. Great support from everyone= all around, though I am trying to avoid the obvious new call signs they are= trying to give me. >=20 > --=20 > David Leonard > This message, and the documents attached hereto, is intended only for the a= ddressee and may contain privileged or confidential information. Any unautho= rized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message i= n error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our internal re= cords. Please then delete the original message. Thank you. --Apple-Mail-5D0B8A97-462D-4573-80E1-416D92F68128 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I assume Al is referring to the pump intake side  filter.    So for the record, was it the inlet side or the high pressure side filter that clogged?  ( Both are needed ) From the symptoms I'm guessing high side but not sure.

BTW,  nice job!

Tracy

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 4, 2012, at 3:53 PM, "Al Wick" <alwick@juno.com> wrote:

As long as your are rebuilding, tremendous safety improvement by using same fuel filter method that all cars use. No matter how much foreign material you throw at it, it can't clog. It minimizes pressure drop, so lower risk of vapor lock. Self cleaning filter. Self priming pumps.
 
-Al Wick
Cozy IV powered by RDM Subaru 3.0R.
Expert at failure prevention methods, N9032U 240+ hours from Portland, Oregon
Glass panel design, Subaru install, Prop construct, Risk assessment info:
http://www.ez.org/pages/alwick/index.htm
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 1:38 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary Forced Landing

Dave, having gone through recently what you just experienced I would like to say GOOD JOB on getting down safely and with such little damage.  Anyway at 1500 AGL there isn't a lot of time ... obviously you made the right choices.

Jeff

(Rebuilding my Ride)

 

From: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Fw: Fw: [FlyRotary] Rotary Forced Landing
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 06:18:47 -0700
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Yup, that was me. I have been meaning to fess up. We were at about 1500 agl when the fuses blew on my fuel pumps. I was in a close formation of 40 aircraft at the time too. I think I got some bad MOGAS somewhere in Iowa as I did notice my fuel return flow creep downward but didn't think it was a big problem.

On the incident flight, a one hour formation flight from SQI for a mass arrival at OSH, the return fuel flow drifted down to zero. I actually though it was a sensor problem. I didn't have the ability to give it a lot of attention because we were in a loose formation. Soon after we pulled it together for a tight formation power switched off. I tried to find a road, but quickly ran out of options and put it down in a bean field. With the beans hitting the flaps it brought me to a stop in about 200ft, just before I would have gone into the full grown corn. As mentioned, wheel pants broke in half but no other damage besides pulling bean leaves out of every nook and cranny. The farmers were very nice, and the stories are true... they have attractive daughters. They were out there barefoot in their Sunday best enjoying the excitement. Helped me clean the fuel filter and replace the fuses. Within a couple of hours I was able to take off from one of their driveways as they all waived good bye (but strangely, no one took me up on my offer for a ride).

Landed at OSH just before dark to a reserved parking space and a very warm reception from the formation group and friends. Great support from everyone all around, though I am trying to avoid the obvious new call signs they are trying to give me.

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David Leonard

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