X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com ([64.136.55.36] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c1) with SMTP id 5693449 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 17:54:16 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.136.55.36; envelope-from=alwick@juno.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=juno.com; s=alpha; t=1344117220; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:Content-Type; b=SVCwjCi7qanFWYAl5a5yYFdsQnsnxQ2919ZWNXx0mV5ch9WrQT8GnDTqgmuMVoRmd MXEKDtNqOm3X1aHMR23yt6rL5rOSaYkms71aA2o2O6HtQKFJIvY109lKAADf2c6oWQ Oue5IDGStmqRE3dHmP78IGrC45O42DroA4wFeFMQ= Received: from Penny (50-39-166-123.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net [50.39.166.123]) by smtpout03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABJB5GQWAGD57H2 for (sender ); Sat, 4 Aug 2012 14:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: "Al Wick" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary Forced Landing Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 14:53:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03B7_01CD7250.E556BEF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 X-UNTD-BodySize: 10298 X-ContentStamp: 24:12:2431724529 X-MAIL-INFO: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 efdf7e0aaf1a9fabdaee5e63fa X-UNTD-OriginStamp: L941HVjjYzDhN3itp//mkEd11/7xrdREZbg9tJ/GAjqiQYHI9ecvmA== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.181.42.33|smtpout03.vgs.untd.com|smtpout03.vgs.untd.com|alwick@juno.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03B7_01CD7250.E556BEF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As long as your are rebuilding, tremendous safety improvement by using = same fuel filter method that all cars use. No matter how much foreign = material you throw at it, it can't clog. It minimizes pressure drop, so = lower risk of vapor lock. Self cleaning filter. Self priming pumps.=20 -Al Wick Cozy IV powered by RDM Subaru 3.0R.=20 Expert at failure prevention methods, N9032U 240+ hours from Portland, = Oregon Glass panel design, Subaru install, Prop construct, Risk assessment = info: http://www.ez.org/pages/alwick/index.htm ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Whaley=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 1:38 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary Forced Landing Dave, having gone through recently what you just experienced I would = like to say GOOD JOB on getting down safely and with such little damage. = Anyway at 1500 AGL there isn't a lot of time ... obviously you made the = right choices. Jeff (Rebuilding my Ride) From: David Leonard =20 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Fw: Fw: [FlyRotary] Rotary = Forced Landing=20 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 06:18:47 -0700=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft = =20 =20 =20 =20 Sigh.. Yup, that was me. I have been meaning to fess up. We were at = about 1500 agl when the fuses blew on my fuel pumps. I was in a close = formation of 40 aircraft at the time too. I think I got some bad MOGAS = somewhere in Iowa as I did notice my fuel return flow creep downward but = didn't think it was a big problem.=20 On the incident flight, a one hour formation flight from SQI for = a mass arrival at OSH, the return fuel flow drifted down to zero. I = actually though it was a sensor problem. I didn't have the ability to = give it a lot of attention because we were in a loose formation. Soon = after we pulled it together for a tight formation power switched off. I = tried to find a road, but quickly ran out of options and put it down in = a bean field. With the beans hitting the flaps it brought me to a stop = in about 200ft, just before I would have gone into the full grown corn. = As mentioned, wheel pants broke in half but no other damage besides = pulling bean leaves out of every nook and cranny. The farmers were very = nice, and the stories are true... they have attractive daughters. They = were out there barefoot in their Sunday best enjoying the excitement. = Helped me clean the fuel filter and replace the fuses. Within a couple = of hours I was able to take off from one of their driveways as they all = waived good bye (but strangely, no one took me up on my offer for a = ride). Landed at OSH just before dark to a reserved parking space and a = very warm reception from the formation group and friends. Great support = from everyone all around, though I am trying to avoid the obvious new = call signs they are trying to give me. --=20 David Leonard =20 This message, and the documents attached hereto, is intended only for = the addressee and may contain privileged or confidential information. = Any unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received = this message in error, please notify us immediately so that we may = correct our internal records. Please then delete the original message. = Thank you. ------=_NextPart_000_03B7_01CD7250.E556BEF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As long as your are rebuilding, tremendous safety improvement by = using same=20 fuel filter method that all cars use. No matter how much foreign = material=20 you throw at it, it can't clog. It minimizes pressure drop, so = lower=20 risk of vapor lock. Self cleaning filter. Self priming pumps.
 
-Al Wick
Cozy IV powered by RDM Subaru 3.0R.
Expert at = failure=20 prevention methods, N9032U 240+ hours from Portland, Oregon
Glass = panel=20 design, Subaru install, Prop construct, Risk assessment info:
http://www.ez.org/pages= /alwick/index.htm
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff=20 Whaley
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 = 1:38=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary = Forced=20 Landing

Dave, having gone through recently what you just experienced I = would like=20 to say GOOD JOB on getting down safely and with such little = damage. =20 Anyway at 1500 AGL there isn't a lot of time ... obviously you made = the right=20 choices.

Jeff

(Rebuilding my Ride)

 

=
From: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Fw: Fw: = [FlyRotary]=20 Rotary Forced Landing
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 06:18:47 = -0700
To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Sigh..

Yup, that was me. I have been meaning to fess = up. We=20 were at about 1500 agl when the fuses blew on my fuel pumps. I = was in a=20 close formation of 40 aircraft at the time too. I think I got = some bad=20 MOGAS somewhere in Iowa as I did notice my fuel return flow = creep=20 downward but didn't think it was a big problem.

On the = incident=20 flight, a one hour formation flight from SQI for a mass arrival = at OSH,=20 the return fuel flow drifted down to zero. I actually though it = was a=20 sensor problem. I didn't have the ability to give it a lot of = attention=20 because we were in a loose formation. Soon after we pulled it = together=20 for a tight formation power switched off. I tried to find a = road, but=20 quickly ran out of options and put it down in a bean field. With = the=20 beans hitting the flaps it brought me to a stop in about 200ft, = just=20 before I would have gone into the full grown corn. As mentioned, = wheel=20 pants broke in half but no other damage besides pulling bean = leaves out=20 of every nook and cranny. The farmers were very nice, and the = stories=20 are true... they have attractive daughters. They were out there = barefoot=20 in their Sunday best enjoying the excitement. Helped me clean = the fuel=20 filter and replace the fuses. Within a couple of hours I was = able to=20 take off from one of their driveways as they all waived good bye = (but=20 strangely, no one took me up on my offer for a = ride).

Landed at=20 OSH just before dark to a reserved parking space and a very warm = reception from the formation group and friends. Great support = from=20 everyone all around, though I am trying to avoid the obvious new = call=20 signs they are trying to give me.

--
David=20 Leonard

This message, and the = documents=20 attached hereto, is intended only for the addressee and may contain = privileged=20 or confidential information. Any unauthorized disclosure is strictly=20 prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify = us=20 immediately so that we may correct our internal records. Please then = delete=20 the original message. Thank you. ------=_NextPart_000_03B7_01CD7250.E556BEF0--