X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.97] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with ESMTP id 5533757 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 11 May 2012 22:06:10 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.91.97; envelope-from=Lehanover@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q4C25Wkx005668 for ; Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:32 -0400 Received: from core-moe001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.65]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D2477E000082 for ; Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Lehanover@aol.com Message-ID: <170a5.4ad20a62.3cdf1f6b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Poisoned Gasoline? : [FlyRotary] Re: MSD coils - Plug Fouling... To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_170a5.4ad20a62.3cdf1f6b_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5004 X-Originating-IP: [173.88.30.23] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1336788332; bh=LMVGFsWDraY1Cvtd7vjao3tGlwPeb6uWCU1tQHaQff4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=f/j9vPyYy7ZTQ8we+G8zzjTLZ0WzKydHNpAb8cP8gBIEjo0RqMlTjSHW69Jtgs1T4 YBpj4ofB3r95hyQb1Cxh6dF3scPh6zk8lyF2Qfeu8f3H93+ha92GI3jJ9hw+c+wSmR fEfh/JTAtlSp0fWNx3YAtidNxWyNAbgqSamZ6zxg= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:312956000:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b4fadc56b6416 --part1_170a5.4ad20a62.3cdf1f6b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Too much oil interferes with vaporization and then requires much more heat of compression to get a burn energetic enough to spin the engine, more like just a fluff sound and not even an increase in cranking speed. One ounce per gallon is plenty. The last resort is the cup of hot coffee and a big dose of motor oil, for a cold day start. The coffee takes the frost off the rotor and heats the chamber walls a bit plus the volume adds to compression ratio and heat of compression. The oil seals up even a junk engine long enough to get a start. None of this should apply to a rebuilt engine with a hot battery. Nothing less than an instant start is expected unless you have a computer, then it has to turn past the start tooth to find itself, so there is a wasted revolution. Should start on the first rotor face that got a fuel charge. I miss Leon. Some of his stuff is still on the Internet. Lynn E. Hanover In a message dated 5/11/2012 6:41:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, eanderson@carolina.rr.com writes: I don't know if you recall Leon from down under (since deceased). But, early on I had a similar problem with my rotary. Since I was breaking in a new/rebuilt engine I was liberal with the 2 cycle oil. Engine would act similar, would act like it was trying to start - would dump excess fuel through the exhaust (plugs up), but just would not run. Leon told me I might have "poisoned" the gasoline with too much oil. --part1_170a5.4ad20a62.3cdf1f6b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Too much oil interferes with vaporization and then requires much more = heat=20 of compression to get a burn energetic enough to spin the engine, more like= just=20 a fluff sound and not even an increase in cranking speed.
One ounce per gallon is plenty.
 
The last resort is the cup of hot coffee and a big dose of motor oil, = for a=20 cold day start. The coffee takes the frost off the rotor and heats the cham= ber=20 walls a bit plus the volume adds to compression ratio and heat of compressi= on.=20 The oil seals up even a junk engine long enough to get a start.
 
None of this should apply to a rebuilt engine with a hot battery. Noth= ing=20 less than an instant start is expected unless you have a computer, then it = has=20 to turn past the start tooth to find itself, so there is a wasted revolutio= n.=20 Should start on the first rotor face that got a fuel charge.
 
I miss Leon. Some of his stuff is still on the Internet.
 
Lynn E. Hanover
 
In a message dated 5/11/2012 6:41:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 eanderson@carolina.rr.com writes:
= I don't=20 know if you recall Leon from down under (since deceased).  But,
= early=20 on I had a similar problem with my rotary.
Since I was breaking in a= =20 new/rebuilt engine I was liberal with the 2 cycle
oil.  Engine w= ould=20 act similar, would act like it was trying to start -
would dump exces= s=20 fuel through the exhaust (plugs up), but just would not
run.  Le= on=20 told me I might have "poisoned" the gasoline with too much=20 oil.
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