X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm10.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com ([98.139.52.207] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with SMTP id 5523917 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 05 May 2012 08:26:32 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.52.207; envelope-from=downing.j@sbcglobal.net Received: from [98.139.52.194] by nm10.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2012 12:25:55 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.224] by tm7.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2012 12:25:55 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.101] by t5.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2012 12:25:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2012 12:25:55 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 426524.64742.bm@omp1006.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 4242 invoked from network); 5 May 2012 12:25:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=UJh7ms7E0VzPLzEbLyKe1j5VfEFyvajyKAOuHP/y/OKCMd6Zmy7Vkm3WUXt3T5Mm/6jJ1dp9GtSuw9gH3RbhdVqhCVHrsiACvzKwVLG9vjrKgeoy3AjV52cbHQ96tL2aXISrDI+KEtgrnwM8wJXzMxgiwAP2ky1ODVffLGE3hF0= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sbcglobal.net; s=s1024; t=1336220755; bh=oO9O84wUfd0ccTUEtbFWIYr5NzrOjySozDuC1Pb1cDo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=wZqp0sP26N/v9Lt8hBiU04UBDj1DC0SfGupwAMXtR0Oyh7/zblECd6Jzop437EDrvJPPB7PZcUyYLkRvObK4bunSFXO+ybAnWHLgRbgL4oArupSAprtGLwgDTyfLWtdGhWnYxR0oNG1JCrvhuT7grsRtMmC4EtBRrLgMEv7OLOk= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: ZGeZU7sVM1nkEfJ9JvS3IwN2KDedP4sc2EU6Mq3SZz2nT.b rN6xnPXJs36mmJeGb5RonuDK4TjipgTzPd1uIFhy3JRvy1r6BOU1mVw3cFNF 2JPizzW62Tj37hHz2k.awVT7hyE33yBobx2g31S7xJPr_86kICzyzeDoPOFO LRgZw1jMZETtZG1kmboi5gjxopLKhym4rWjQs9znCrG68P.2xHp8o9RCV6JQ QXpAuhDDv9fdvJV4nUlp8Ige.PVwbY3LHVeLGtndFq1yuYR7M2vgli16k_3I A.YQnFhgQ_uqT3BJ8DrvZ0CS7ct1P.jtHcAGq6QeR9Ue8YsA_voAOUfP7Zib aUTsXxj27Ul1thuAor6wq4haeJmgn0LgjD5QIitZSBE6rqx3irv9ZSemfprt suBufWLe6DlsjgFuNf_5JI.JMX8DSvHb6mY5V83X730seLY4JLnBlsW_zcSx FNP9wzXFIU7ZVStEcDlhe3Taf7gMS8ufN9pOybLW0qk5bQKOgPmXN8.gcPNj S6JUpD28zvw-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 4Ss7WYSswBAR3ULsDHPw5yIFKkoakpn6PCJcwuPp3izwMVSl Received: from JohnPC (downing.j@69.208.77.193 with login) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 May 2012 05:25:55 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <4922DEF585994206A1E1823D496FF63E@JohnPC> From: To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: At least I didn't.... Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 08:26:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 Ernest, it's time to invest in a good fire extinguisher, hosing down a maybe oil fire really gets interesting. JohnD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Christley" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 11:16 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: At least I didn't.... > And then it happens again. > > Today I put on the rudder, since it is tied into the nosegear steering, > and the new muffler I built. This is the first time that I've run with > the cowl on for any significant amount of time. It was taking a while to > warm up to 160, even though it was around 80 degrees outside. > > Finally, I shut down and was motified to see smoke rising from the engine > compartment. Jumped out and grabbed the hose. No fire, but the exhaust > had burned the cowling where it passes close. > > Maybe I can get the newest repairman to help me out 8*) > > > The muffler works really well, BTW. > > hoursaway1@comcast.net wrote: > >>Ernest,, the guy you should be pissed at is the one who came up with the >>phrase,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,SHIT HAPPENS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,. David. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Ernest Christley" >>To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >>Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 7:54:10 AM >>Subject: [FlyRotary] At least I didn't.... >> >>Cause an interplanetary probe to crash or an airliner to run out of fuel. >> >>You know, one of those stupid mistake caused by incorrect conversions. >>My conversion trip-up was converting "front rotor" from the car to the >>airplane (and ignoring the "F" and "R" that I stamped into the rotor >>housings). >> >>I had fuel. I had air. I had spark. It was just that the spark was >>going to the wrong rotor. And I used a timing light to verify that I >>was getting the spark. Except I took the timing from the wrong rotor. >>I even searched this group and verified that I had the EDIS-4 coils >>wired correctly. Connectors 1 and 4 go to the front rotor. Given that >>the front rotor is the one in the front on the airplane, not the car. >> >>Doh!! >> >>Once I switched the plug wires around and cleared the engine (turned it >>a bit with the fuel pumps and injectors off), the engine kicked off in >>two blades. Someone has GOT to develop a cure for stupid, or I'm doomed. >> >>Word to the wise. You've verified fuel, air, and spark, and >>compression. The engine's spinning with the starter at around 250rpm, >>but it just won't kick off. Every few turns, though, it is like >>something blocks the engine from turning and it stall for a split >>second. Check your spark plug wiring. >> >>Good news: >>- FIRST TAXI !!! It was only about 3ft, but it is the first time in >>this ten year project that I've had something to move under its own >>power!! >> >>- The manifold modification is a success. I had the secondary injectors >>spraying backwards, away from the runner, under the theory that it would >>help the fuel vaporize better. Wrong. It just puddled in the >>manifold. A little more fiberglass work, and both sets are spraying >>with the airflow now. I cut power to the fuel pump and the engine >>immediately cuts out. It used to slowly choke down as it was sucking >>some of the puddled fuel out of the manifold. >> >>- I don't seem to have damaged anything with the backwards plug wires. >> >>- I've got to rework my tune. Yes, this is a good thing. The >>aggressive prop is loading the engine, combined with the fuel actually >>getting burned AS it is injected and not after it has pooled a while, >>have combined to throw off the current tune. Fortunately, this isn't >>very hard with a running engine. >> >>-FIRST TAXI !! I'm juiced. You guys that are flying better watch your >>six. I'm a comin'. >> >>-- >>Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>Archive and UnSub: >>http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >